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Old 11-19-2012, 08:06 PM   #1
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Default What is it going to take to get a bipartisan deal done in Washington?

I'll give in on raising taxes on the top 2%, but entitlement reform has to be on the table.

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Old 11-19-2012, 08:07 PM   #2
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No congressmen and congresswomen who represent the Tea Party? lol
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Old 11-19-2012, 08:08 PM   #3
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No congressmen and congresswomen who represent the Tea Party? lol
Let's be serious. Do you have any other ideas?
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Old 11-19-2012, 08:11 PM   #4
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i agree entirely about entitlement reform.

it makes me sick that the ultra rich and multinational corporations have been continually taking massive govt handouts for years, entitled assholes.
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Old 11-19-2012, 08:11 PM   #5
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i agree entirely about entitlement reform.

it makes me sick that the ultra rich and multinational corporations have been continually taking massive govt handouts for years, entitled assholes.

I'm willing to end subsides for oil companies.

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Old 11-19-2012, 08:28 PM   #6
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I'm willing to end subsides for oil companies.
Farm too, and we'll get talking!
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Old 11-19-2012, 08:31 PM   #7
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Lol...you're such a partisan. I gave in on raising the taxes on the top2% :
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Old 11-19-2012, 08:51 PM   #8
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1) The Republicans in the house need to unleash themselves from the control of Grover Norquist and his special interest group. We've tried tax cuts for the rich, that did no good for our economy. Along with raising the top tax rate to levels similar to what they were during the Clinton economic boom era, we also have to raise capital gains tax, lower deductions, and rework our tax code as a whole. But the last bit can wait until after the Dec. 31 deadline.

2) In regard to entitlements- seriously cut down on corporate welfare. Possibly raise the minimum age for social security/medicare by 2 years (people are living longer now than when the minimum was set, so it makes some sense).

3) Cut down on military spending. I think our budget is greater than the next 10+ countries combined or something absurd like that. We should stop getting into pointless costly entanglements overseas and focus more inwardly.
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Old 11-19-2012, 08:56 PM   #9
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1) The Republicans in the house need to unleash themselves from the control of Grover Norquist and his special interest group. We've tried tax cuts for the rich, that did no good for our economy. Along with raising the top tax rate to levels similar to what they were during the Clinton economic boom era, we also have to raise capital gains tax, lower deductions, and rework our tax code as a whole. But the last bit can wait until after the Dec. 31 deadline.

2) In regard to entitlements- seriously cut down on corporate welfare. Possibly raise the minimum age for social security/medicare by 2 years (people are living longer now than when the minimum was set, so it makes some sense).

3) Cut down on military spending. I think our budget is greater than the next 10+ countries combined or something absurd like that. We should stop getting into pointless costly entanglements overseas and focus more inwardly.

Did you read the thread title? " what is it going to take to get a bipartisan deal done?" There's no way the Republicans are going to give in on all of that. I don't think y'all know what a bipartisan deal means.

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Old 11-19-2012, 09:01 PM   #10
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1) The Republicans in the house need to unleash themselves from the control of Grover Norquist and his special interest group. We've tried tax cuts for the rich, that did no good for our economy. Along with raising the top tax rate to levels similar to what they were during the Clinton economic boom era, we also have to raise capital gains tax, lower deductions, and rework our tax code as a whole. But the last bit can wait until after the Dec. 31 deadline.

2) In regard to entitlements- seriously cut down on corporate welfare. Possibly raise the minimum age for social security/medicare by 2 years (people are living longer now than when the minimum was set, so it makes some sense).

3) Cut down on military spending. I think our budget is greater than the next 10+ countries combined or something absurd like that. We should stop getting into pointless costly entanglements overseas and focus more inwardly.


1) Reform taxes, but set it so that everyone is equal and that is agreeable to me. Slash corporate and 2% earners tax rates to the same as everyone else.

2) Cut social security

3) Cut wasteful military spending. Wasn't there some military spending on testing chickens or something like that?
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Old 11-19-2012, 09:14 PM   #11
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Did you read the thread title? " what is it going to take to get a bipartisan deal done?" There's no way the Republicans are going to give in on all of that. I don't think y'all know what a bipartisan deal means.

Then they better be ready for the consequences come next election cycle:


Exit polls of voters released Tuesday showed that 47% of Americans supported Obama's proposal to raise tax rates on income above $250,000 for couples. In addition, 13% said everyone should pay more in taxes, while 35% were against any tax increases.

http://articles.latimes.com/2012/nov...udget-20121110
What bargaining chips do they have exactly?
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Old 11-19-2012, 09:47 PM   #12
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1) The Republicans in the house need to unleash themselves from the control of Grover Norquist and his special interest group. We've tried tax cuts for the rich, that did no good for our economy. Along with raising the top tax rate to levels similar to what they were during the Clinton economic boom era, we also have to raise capital gains tax, lower deductions, and rework our tax code as a whole. But the last bit can wait until after the Dec. 31 deadline.

2) In regard to entitlements- seriously cut down on corporate welfare. Possibly raise the minimum age for social security/medicare by 2 years (people are living longer now than when the minimum was set, so it makes some sense).

3) Cut down on military spending. I think our budget is greater than the next 10+ countries combined or something absurd like that. We should stop getting into pointless costly entanglements overseas and focus more inwardly.

2 sounds good in theory but it probably is a bad idea for a couple reasons. Here is a short Krugman post about one of them:

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/201...gman&seid=auto

I agree with 3 100% tho. Military spending needs to become streamlined and efficient.
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Old 11-20-2012, 03:30 AM   #15
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Did you read the thread title? " what is it going to take to get a bipartisan deal done?" There's no way the Republicans are going to give in on all of that. I don't think y'all know what a bipartisan deal means.
Do you understand that Democrats now control the White House and the Senate... And actually got a majority of the votes for the house and, if not for gerrymandering by the GOP, they would control that too?

The majority has spoken and, as a result, one side gained leverage and the other side lost leverage. Elections are about more than just who wins and loses. It is about allowing the nation to speak regarding the direction the nation should go.

So, the world of post-2012 Election Day politics -- a day which saw the Democrats get a tip of the hat and the Republicans take a clear loss, almost across the board... No, bipartisanship does not mean the two sides meeting exactly halfway on all issues and it definitely doesn't mean, "We'll give in on something that should be a no-brainer if you make controversial, big cuts to programs people need and care about."

I'm all for deals which are weighed in on by both sides and may the best ideas win... But, the Republicans really have to start getting realistic about legislating in this country, because they were nowhere close from 2008-12.

Their position of opposing anything the president promoted, regardless of whether or not it was originally a Republican idea, should no longer be acceptable. They have very little leverage right now. The message by the electorate should have been loud and clear.

I know a lot of Republicans aren't fans of Darwin, but they need to adapt or become extinct. Time to adapt, I'd say.

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