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Old 11-12-2012, 03:25 PM   #16
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I think i am ok with the Mike D'Antoni signing.

Phil reached and thought the lakers were freaking needy to go to him and Dr Buss B1tch slapped him. I trust Dr Jerry Buss, Mitch & Jim buss(after this summer) more now then last year

Phil Wanted:
Stake in ownership or 10-12 mil
wanted to coach only home games
wanted to have a say in personal moves the lakers were making.

basically Phil wanted Jim/Mitch to hand him the key to the franchise. Which i say Fcuk NO.

Mike D is talking about bringing Nate Mcmilan as his top assistant and planning on retaining Chuck P & Steve Clifford. Which is a good idea

I would like to see this before giving my opinion on this.

I trust in Jerry Buss.
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Old 11-12-2012, 04:30 PM   #17
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I can just imagine what Phil Jackson said:

"I want 10 million a year and I want to coach all out of town games from my couch. I'll call my assistant coaches on my cell phone and tell them what to do." hahaha

The biggest downside of this hire is that my buddy DK is going to gripe, whine and bitch about it the entire season! In DK's words:



hahahahahaha Just joking DK.

I'm leaving town tomorrow until Xmas so I won't be able to check in as often. DK, I suspect upon hearing this news that you will be saddened but do try and get along without me. Have a great Thanksgiving guys!

LMAO...that was pretty funny
See, I like this Mr.Sax much better

Have a very Happy Thanksgiving
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Old 11-12-2012, 04:57 PM   #18
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I think i am ok with the Mike D'Antoni signing.

Phil reached and thought the lakers were freaking needy to go to him and Dr Buss B1tch slapped him. I trust Dr Jerry Buss, Mitch & Jim buss(after this summer) more now then last year

Phil Wanted:
Stake in ownership or 10-12 mil
wanted to coach only home games
wanted to have a say in personal moves the lakers were making.

basically Phil wanted Jim/Mitch to hand him the key to the franchise. Which i say Fcuk NO.

Mike D is talking about bringing Nate Mcmilan as his top assistant and planning on retaining Chuck P & Steve Clifford. Which is a good idea

I would like to see this before giving my opinion on this.

I trust in Jerry Buss.

I get where you are coming from HOWEVER......
How much money has Phil meant to this Lakers franchise?

Stake in ownership....I would say no to anything above 1% at the point that we have pushed all our money into the center of the table.....what's the big deal to pay him even up to $20 million a year? Is he less valuable than Kobe?
Pau is getting $18 million this year....is HE worth more than PJ
Better yet, coaches salary doesn't count against the cap.....so Pau is really costing us $36 million....and we don''t want to pay Phil?????

Phil not coaching the road games? I don't think it makes much difference as long as the assistant knows the system and Phil was coaching all Playoff games. Phil is 1000000000 x > 'Antoni ( No D ).
This is like turning down sleeping with Kim Kardashian for 6 months out of a year in favor of sleeping with Rosie O'Donnell for the full year

Having a say in team personnel.....is this really a problem? He has always had a say in his own way, he didn't like rookies so we drafted and he wouldn't play them RIGHT. So he had control in his own way.....what is the real problem here? He want's to get players he can actually use???? Do you think he would seek out Smush Parker and Kwame to come back in trades??? What's the worst that could happen??? Ok.....so he'd bring back Luke, that's just 1 guy.

I trust in Jerry Buss too.....but Jerry didn't do this...this is clearly a Jimmy move.

What I see happening is that within 2 years 'Antoni will be out and we will be paying him $$$ for nothing just like we are paying the remainder of Brown's contract EXACTLY AS I SAID WE WOULD from the day we signed him.

3 years from now we will be paying 'Antoni, Brown and the next coach who comes in.....how is that cost effective???

I mean damn, there were good viable candidates out there who would've better fit this team.....hell, Dunleavy would have even been better.
At least 'Antoni does know basketball and is not an idiot...but his ideas will never be successful in the NBA and will most likely lead to a Dwight exit after the season. We will not catch Boston in titles....not anytime soon.

I have loved my Lakers since 1960 and this is the biggest fiasco since the Shaq trade.....maybe biggest ever considering how freaking much talent we have.

I took a whole ton of heat when I said this about Mike Brown, I expect to take even more heat about this now.......but just like with Brown you will all realize that I am right........but hey, at least the team should be exciting.
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Old 11-12-2012, 05:03 PM   #19
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I was really bummed to read this new this morning. I really would've liked McMillan to be the head coach and for D'antoni to be the assistant, but it looks like it will be the other way around. If we land McMillan too, it won't be so bad. I just don't see what the Lakers management is thinking when they are hiring coaches.
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Old 11-12-2012, 05:09 PM   #20
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the main fault was to hire MB so unnecessary fast! and now again the same hurry. i dont understand it.
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Old 11-12-2012, 05:09 PM   #21
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This is interesting....

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Peter Vecsey: How surprised were Jackson's people? Agent Brian Musberger was on Chicago-2-LA plane 2 negotiate w Lakers re contract when D'A was hired. Twitter @PeterVecsey1
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Old 11-12-2012, 05:14 PM   #22
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So....he made up facts that are well known throughout the NBA and are very easy to look up???? Uh.....sure

Yes he did.

I just looked up one example and in 07 Phoenix was ranked 13th in defense...

http://www.basketball-reference.com/.../NBA_2007.html
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Old 11-12-2012, 05:19 PM   #23
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the main fault was to hire MB so unnecessary fast! and now again the same hurry. i dont understand it.

This was rash, impulsive Jimmy Buss at work once again
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Old 11-12-2012, 05:20 PM   #24
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This is interesting....
I saw that this morning too on LA Times and another where Phil was stunned.

Many Lakers fan are stunned.

They didn't even bother negotiate to curb Phil's requests. This is still about anti-Phil.

If this turn out to be another failure experiment and wasted this year or next. Definitely Phil won't be coming back to answer them.

If I were Phil now, I probably take other team offers then Lakers won't be having the last laugh and D'Antoni won't be having smooth sailing either.

I think this experiment will fail again.
7 seconds or less won't work. It didn't work with Carmelo. It probably won't with Kobe too.
If Kobe became Carmelo, what can DAntoni do? Quit again?
Kobe and Nash don't have fresh legs anymore. Even if they could, they probably won't have much energy near the end of the game.
7 seconds or less system could get Nash hurt 7 seconds or less.
Dwight Defensive strength will probably get rusty overtime
You don't have that many sharp shooter on the current roster
DAntoni couldn't handle 1 mega stars, how can he handle 3 more?
DAntoni himself is sensitive to criticism when he should be neutral to it.
If this whole thing fail, they will lose a number amount of Lakers fans.

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Old 11-12-2012, 05:25 PM   #25
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Yes he did.

I just looked up one example and in 07 Phoenix was ranked 13th in defense...

http://www.basketball-reference.com/.../NBA_2007.html

Look at the opponent PPG
Anyone who knows the game can tell you that his teams don't play Defense.....even owners, gm's and players who were involved with him have stated this........apparently you missed all this......it's just like arguing that water is wet
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Old 11-12-2012, 05:27 PM   #26
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I saw that this morning too on LA Times and another where Phil was stunned.

Many Lakers fan are stunned.

They didn't even bother negotiate to curb Phil's requests. This is still about anti-Phil.

If this turn out to be another failure experiment and wasted this year or next. Definitely Phil won't be coming back to answer them.

If I were Phil now, I probably take other team offers then Lakers won't be having the last laugh and D'Antoni won't be having smooth sailing either.

I think this experiment will fail again.
7 seconds or less won't work. It didn't work with Carmelo. It probably won't with Kobe too.
Kobe and Nash don't have fresh legs anymore. Even if they could, they probably won't have much energy near the end of the game.
7 seconds or less system could get Nash hurt 7 seconds or less.
Dwight Defensive strength will probably get rusty overtime
You don't have that many sharp shooter on the current roster

Oh you right......and these guys will find out soon enough.
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Look at the opponent PPG
Anyone who knows the game can tell you that his teams don't play Defense.....even owners, gm's and players who were involved with him have stated this........apparently you missed all this......it's just like arguing that water is wet


Defensive rating is more important than opponent ppg..

And even in opponent ppg they weren't 4th last..
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Defensive rating is more important than opponent ppg..

And even in opponent ppg they weren't 4th last..

Doesn't matter what you say, this crap is going to fail just as Mike Brown did, I was 100% correct then and have not an ounce of doubt that I am correct again......everyone knows his system will never work in the NBA playoffs.
The playoffs are about defense, rebounding and halfcourt offense......'Antoni is terrible at all of these.
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Old 11-12-2012, 05:37 PM   #29
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Yes he did.

I just looked up one example and in 07 Phoenix was ranked 13th in defense...

http://www.basketball-reference.com/.../NBA_2007.html

Stephen A was using PPG which is wrong.
The Suns played at a high pace leading to more possessions per game so scoring would naturally go up on both ends of the court. You have to adjust PPG by possessions to get a true rating which has the Suns at the 13th spot you linked to.

It is Stephen A Smith after all, never one to be shy about bending the facts to make his points. Arguing with Skip Bayless overtime will do that to you
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Doesn't matter what you say, this crap is going to fail just as Mike Brown did, I was 100% correct then and have not an ounce of doubt that I am correct again......everyone knows his system will never work in the NBA playoffs.
The playoffs are about defense, rebounding and halfcourt offense......'Antoni is terrible at all of these.

Maybe so, but there is a point to calling you and Stephen A out when trying to sell people on stats that are simply not true.
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