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Old 09-19-2012, 12:28 AM   #16
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That and the fact that he sucks....
lol. that's absurd. He wasn't worth 100 million but he doesn't suck. He's been quiet the first two games but I fully expect 8-10 sacks by seasons end. The Texans had the luxury of allowing him to walk because they have Watt, who is beastly, but it's absurd to say Williams sucks.
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Old 09-19-2012, 12:30 AM   #17
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So bizarre to read. And not disagree.


Seriously, at one point during training camp, there was thought that Hayden was going to steal his job but Jennings did his thing and has played fantastic the first two games.


We have a really good CB duo with Jennings' emergence. Nelson might have had some catches and yards but not all were on Jennings' watch.
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Old 09-19-2012, 12:35 AM   #18
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lol. that's absurd. He wasn't worth 100 million but he doesn't suck. He's been quiet the first two games but I fully expect 8-10 sacks by seasons end. The Texans had the luxury of allowing him to walk because they have Watt, who is beastly, but it's absurd to say Williams sucks.

Not really. He's not even worth 50 million. Dude is so overrated it's ridiculous. He hasn't been elite in years and if Bills fans thinks he's the answer for their god awful defense they're in for a rude awakening.
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Not really. He's not even worth 50 million. Dude is so overrated it's ridiculous. He hasn't been elite in years and if Bills fans thinks he's the answer for their god awful defense they're in for a rude awakening.
He's a pass rusher, and he does it well. He's not worth what the Bills gave him because that's all he does, but he is good at it.

I'm a Bills fan and I know he's not the answer, but he's a good piece, the answer for our defense is Marcell Dareus.

Also, our defense isn't god awful, it's not good but it's improving. Williams helps. He's not an anchor but he's a nice guy to have on the edge while Dareus is inside.
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Also, before Williams got hurt last year he looked pretty damn good.
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Also, before Williams got hurt last year he looked pretty damn good.

Everybody would if you're going up against Dallas Clark and that garbage Pitt O-Line. He's living off his name at this point because anybody who watches Mario play knows the dude is the most overrated player in football. If you sign a guy to 100 mil and you're satisfied with 8-10 sacks well, that's just pathetic. The Jets had Austin Howard on him all game and what did he do? Absolutely nothing. Any elite 4-3 defensive end would of had their career game.
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Old 09-19-2012, 04:51 PM   #22
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and of course the real best 3-4 DE in the NFL Calais Campbell has a monster 2 sack game and continues to never get noticed by anyone and is lost behind names Nagta and Watt and J.Smith...

wtf does this guy have to do to get noticed...

lol @ "monster 2 sack game". The guy didn't do jackshit but continue looking at the box score thinking he did something. He was at best the 4th/5th best Cardinal defender last week.
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lol @ "monster 2 sack game". The guy didn't do jackshit but continue looking at the box score thinking he did something. He was at best the 4th/5th best Cardinal defender last week.
http://www.examiner.com/article/card...er-of-the-week




he had 10 fcking tackles as well that game, more than ANYONE playing on that field not named Washington...

seriously, WHAT THE FCK ARE YOU WATCHING!!!????
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he had 10 fcking tackles as well that game, more than ANYONE playing on that field not named Washington...

seriously, WHAT THE FCK ARE YOU WATCHING!!!????

Did you watch the game? I GUARANTEE you didn't. He got his sacks off of his teammates setting it up for him. Sam Acho, Patrick Peterson, Daryl Washington, and ESPECIALLY Darnell Docket deserved it over him. He wasn't bad by any means but he wasn't even the best Cardinal defender. So yet again, continue box score watching because it's clear as day you didn't watch shit. Clay Matthews and DeMeco Ryans deserved this award FAR more than Campbell so bringing that shit up was pointless.
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DUDE, he won NFL PLAYER OF THE WEEK...not only did they think he did better than anyone on his own team, they think he did better than anyone in the entire NFL...

clearly this just an opinion that is held only by you
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Yeah Campbell was a beast. They couldn't move him and he got penetration all game long it seemed.
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DUDE, he won NFL PLAYER OF THE WEEK...not only did they think he did better than anyone on his own team, they think he did better than anyone in the entire NFL...

clearly this just an opinion that is held only by you

So? Those awards mean jackshit. I mean look at DeMeco and Clay's games and they blow Campbell's game out the water by BOTH the eye test and the stat sheet. Honest question, did you watch the game? Because I did and it was Patrick Peterson who didn't give up a catch, it was Darnell Docket causing havoc in the trenches ALLOWING Campbell to get those easy 2 sacks. It was Sam Acho flying all over the field and Washington making the big plays. Either way Campbell isn't on Watt, Smith, and Ngata's level. He's on the next one.

edit: And if you think this is only my opinion, a good amount of CARDS' fans who watched the game share the same opinion. Stop box score watching just to pimp your guy and actually WATCH his games.
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Dockett recorded a whooping 3 tackles compared to Campbells 10 and 2 sacks...but stats mean nothing right?

Campbell is not only in the same class as those other names but possibly above them...he did play better than all of those names last year, he just didn't get noticed because he plays on the Cardinals

2011
Calais Campbell 8 sacks / 52 tackles
J.J. Watt 5.5 sacks / 58 tackles
Haloti Ngata 5 sacks / 37 tackles
Justin Smith 7.5 sacks / 52 tackles

but right right...I get it, stats mean nothing and Campbell just did all of that because his buddies helped him do it
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