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Old 08-28-2012, 08:05 PM   #31
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Old 08-28-2012, 08:11 PM   #32
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Old 08-28-2012, 08:12 PM   #33
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If the Lakers had a statue for every legendary player there would be no room, doubt shaq gets one. I think Kobe will though.
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Old 08-28-2012, 08:19 PM   #34
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Shaq won't get a statue. Kobe maybe someday off in the future
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Old 08-28-2012, 08:22 PM   #35
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these are the possible statues for kobe ( who knows maybe nash or howard could get in based one 2 options )

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Old 08-28-2012, 08:29 PM   #36
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i think its ludicrous and appalling that anybody would say Shaq shouldnt get a statue. In the history of the NBA only 5 teams have accomplished a 3peat,
1952–54 Minneapolis Lakers, 1959–66 Boston Celtics (Eight Championships), 1991–93 Chicago Bulls, 1996–98 Chicago Bulls, 2000–02 Los Angeles Lakers

Of those teams look at the teams best players

1952–54 Minneapolis Lakers - George Mikan - Has a statue at Target Center

1959-66 Boston Celtics - Bill Russell - Getting a statue next year (http://radioboston.wbur.org/2012/05/...russell-statue)

1991-93 & 96-98 Bulls - Jordan - Has a statue at United Center

Now i think its pretty stupid that somebody would argue against Shaq having a statue. If Kobe was going to get one then i think Shaq deserves to be in there before Kobe does, Laker fans use Kobes championships as their arguments substance all the time so therefore its obvious championships are what they value most, no? So therefore the players who as the leader win championships should be remember and therefore Shaq 3> has a better case than Kobe 2. Three-peats are ridiculous impressive, they never happen, it takes special players to win them as you can see by the small list ( Mikan,Russell,Jordan,Shaq)


EDIT: Not saying that Kobe dosnt deserve one BTW. Just that Shaq deserves it more.
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Old 08-28-2012, 08:34 PM   #37
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He should, probably won't


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Old 08-28-2012, 08:35 PM   #38
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i think its ludicrous and appalling that anybody would say Shaq shouldnt get a statue. In the history of the NBA only 5 teams have accomplished a 3peat,
1952–54 Minneapolis Lakers, 1959–66 Boston Celtics (Eight Championships), 1991–93 Chicago Bulls, 1996–98 Chicago Bulls, 2000–02 Los Angeles Lakers

Of those teams look at the teams best players

1952–54 Minneapolis Lakers - George Mikan - Has a statue at Target Center

1959-66 Boston Celtics - Bill Russell - Getting a statue next year (http://radioboston.wbur.org/2012/05/...russell-statue)

1991-93 & 96-98 Bulls - Jordan - Has a statue at United Center

Now i think its pretty stupid that somebody would argue against Shaq having a statue. If Kobe was going to get one then i think Shaq deserves to be in there before Kobe does, Laker fans use Kobes championships as their arguments substance all the time so therefore its obvious championships are what they value most, no? So therefore the players who as the leader win championships should be remember and therefore Shaq 3> has a better case than Kobe 2. Three-peats are ridiculous impressive, they never happen, it takes special players to win them as you can see by the small list ( Mikan,Russell,Jordan,Shaq)


EDIT: Not saying that Kobe dosnt deserve one BTW. Just that Shaq deserves it more.


its kinda funny how minneapolis still holds onto a franchise/player that hasnt been there for 50 years

mikan should have a statue outside staples. hes part of laker history. where a team plays doesnt matter. its the name and players that do.
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its kinda funny how minneapolis still holds onto a franchise/player that hasnt been there for 50 years

mikan should have a statue outside staples. hes part of laker history. where a team plays doesnt matter. its the name and players that do.

Tell that to the Seattle Supersonics, ask them how their recent trip to the NBA finals went.
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i think its ludicrous and appalling that anybody would say Shaq shouldnt get a statue. In the history of the NBA only 5 teams have accomplished a 3peat,
195254 Minneapolis Lakers, 195966 Boston Celtics (Eight Championships), 199193 Chicago Bulls, 199698 Chicago Bulls, 200002 Los Angeles Lakers

Of those teams look at the teams best players

195254 Minneapolis Lakers - George Mikan - Has a statue at Target Center

1959-66 Boston Celtics - Bill Russell - Getting a statue next year (http://radioboston.wbur.org/2012/05/...russell-statue)

1991-93 & 96-98 Bulls - Jordan - Has a statue at United Center

Now i think its pretty stupid that somebody would argue against Shaq having a statue. If Kobe was going to get one then i think Shaq deserves to be in there before Kobe does, Laker fans use Kobes championships as their arguments substance all the time so therefore its obvious championships are what they value most, no? So therefore the players who as the leader win championships should be remember and therefore Shaq 3> has a better case than Kobe 2. Three-peats are ridiculous impressive, they never happen, it takes special players to win them as you can see by the small list ( Mikan,Russell,Jordan,Shaq)


EDIT: Not saying that Kobe dosnt deserve one BTW. Just that Shaq deserves it more.

It's not a numbers game. It's a popularity thing. Titles have nothing to do with, numbers have nothing to do with it. Who gets a statue is based on popularity with the fans and with the ownership of the Lakers. Shaw burned a lot of ground when he left LA, threw a lot of very important people under the bus including Buss and Mitch. He'll be lucky if he gets his jersey retired before Kobe.
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Old 08-28-2012, 08:42 PM   #41
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It's not a numbers game. It's a popularity thing. Titles have nothing to do with, numbers have nothing to do with it. Who gets a statue is based on popularity with the fans and with the ownership of the Lakers. Shaw burned a lot of ground when he left LA, threw a lot of very important people under the bus including Buss and Mitch. He'll be lucky if he gets his jersey retired before Kobe.

I know, i was just saying based on the facts of actual performance and what should happen Shaq's more deserving than most. I personally dont think he will and i posted on the first page saying he probably wont.
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Isn't he getting his jersey retired this season?

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Old 08-28-2012, 08:45 PM   #43
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I doubt Shaq even gets a statue.

A similar example would be if Lebron gets a statue in Cleveland.

Uh no that would be Shaq getting a statue in Orlando.
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Old 08-28-2012, 08:47 PM   #44
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If you believe that both players should get a statue, then Shaq's should naturally be first. It's a timing matter. Shaq is older, retired first, jersey retired first and ended his time as a laker first. It's just a matter of chronological order.

To be honest, Kareem should have had one before Magic.
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i think its ludicrous and appalling that anybody would say Shaq shouldnt get a statue. In the history of the NBA only 5 teams have accomplished a 3peat,
195254 Minneapolis Lakers, 195966 Boston Celtics (Eight Championships), 199193 Chicago Bulls, 199698 Chicago Bulls, 200002 Los Angeles Lakers

Of those teams look at the teams best players

195254 Minneapolis Lakers - George Mikan - Has a statue at Target Center

1959-66 Boston Celtics - Bill Russell - Getting a statue next year (http://radioboston.wbur.org/2012/05/...russell-statue)

1991-93 & 96-98 Bulls - Jordan - Has a statue at United Center

Now i think its pretty stupid that somebody would argue against Shaq having a statue. If Kobe was going to get one then i think Shaq deserves to be in there before Kobe does, Laker fans use Kobes championships as their arguments substance all the time so therefore its obvious championships are what they value most, no? So therefore the players who as the leader win championships should be remember and therefore Shaq 3> has a better case than Kobe 2. Three-peats are ridiculous impressive, they never happen, it takes special players to win them as you can see by the small list ( Mikan,Russell,Jordan,Shaq)


EDIT: Not saying that Kobe dosnt deserve one BTW. Just that Shaq deserves it more.


Sorry, that's an un-informed argument, Kobe has played his ENTIRE CAREER with the Lakers winning 5 titles.....more than Shaq, almost 3 peating WITHOUT SHAQ......SHAQ never went to 2 straight finals without Kobe.

Kobe is the Lakers All-Time Leading scorer, Has the Highest scoring game as a Laker with 81......Shaq's highest was 61, Kobe's All-star MVP awards were all as a Laker...the most of any NBA player. Kobe has the most All-NBA 1st team and total All-NBA team votes.

The next statues should be Elgin Baylor then Kobe, then Shaq.
Facts are facts, Kobe VERY CLEARLY deserves it much more than Shaq.....it's not even remotely close.
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