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Old 01-24-2007, 04:43 AM   #16
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the funny thing is they both werent born in america
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Old 01-24-2007, 05:58 AM   #17
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because you'd have to be naiive or live in Brady Bunch world to not know the fact that "Black people are better natural athletes than any other race". Meaning in a sport where athletism plays such a big key, it's natural for Black people to dominate. In this day and age for two White guys to be the clear cut best player/leader of the two best teams in the league... it IS rare. It's not racism, it's not looking down on White people, it's realistic to go "wow who woulda expected this"

Kinda like if UC Berkeley suddenly announces that more Blacks and Mexicans made the school this year than Asians... it would be realistic to go "Wow". It wouldn't make anyone a racist.

It's a tricky issue though... some boxing analyst was talking about who the best boxers were and he said that it was usually the race that was doing worst at the time. Basically the hungriest race.. loook at this Maria Sharapova.. she's a good example.. her family comes from Siberia.. her family was probably poorer than the Williams sisters living in compton.. Then look at Russian boxers.. same thing. I don't know how accusrate it is but it's definitely interesting.
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Old 01-24-2007, 09:53 AM   #18
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It would be interesting to see if white players were that much less athletic if all of those volleyball players, gymnists, olympians, etc. decided to play bball from instead at an early age.

Like someone said, it could be that simply more athletic black people choose bball than any other race.

You can argue that there are MORE athletic black people, but the above holds true for the most part I believe.
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Old 01-24-2007, 10:05 AM   #19
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And 2 African Americans are coaching against each other in the Super Bowl

And the Best golfer in the World Is African American

And arguably the best rapper in the past 7 years is White

the best rapper of the 7 years or whatever is certainly not white. white folks are very good are hyping BS, like Nash
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Old 01-24-2007, 10:25 AM   #20
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I think if blacks were predispositioned to become better basketball players due to race than Africa would be the hotbed of basketball talent that Europe in reality is.

That has much more to do with money than it does with talent. Europe is just a hell of a lot richer than Africa and still hasnt done nearly as well creating talent. Considering the lack of wealth, the fact that Africa has managed to produce one of the greatest players of all time and several other very good players should speak volumes. Europe might have one guy in the top 50 if it is lucky and he is only there based on what he could have been not what he did in the NBA.

On top of that, a lot of the best players in Europe are of African descent. Outside a few guys from the former Yugoslavia and Dirk, its been predominently blacks. Parker, Nique, Diaw, Pietrus, Badiane, Schortianidis, Gelebale, Petro amongst others.

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her family comes from Siberia.. her family was probably poorer than the Williams sisters living in compton..

Her family had enough money to move to Florida and pay for her to particpate in a top class tennis school for most of her teenage years. That is not poor. Wealth does not determine whether you will be a good athlete or not.

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It would be interesting to see if white players were that much less athletic if all of those volleyball players, gymnists, olympians, etc. decided to play bball from instead at an early age.

Like someone said, it could be that simply more athletic black people choose bball than any other race.

You can argue that there are MORE athletic black people, but the above holds true for the most part I believe.

Basketball, football and soccer are all dominated by black athletes. Compared to the general population, the percentages that make up those sports is just ridiculous. Its the same with the aboriginals over here in Australia and Aussie Rules and the Maori's in New Zealand with Rugby. White folk just arent as athletic in general. Sure there are exceptions but they just arent, I dont know how anyone could argue it.

You honestly think there are no white guys attempting to compete in running events?
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I mentioned the olympics, which would include running events I would assume.
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Old 01-24-2007, 10:33 AM   #22
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I mentioned the olympics, which would include running events I would assume.

Well given how dominant the blacks are in the running events, that would hardly prove anything else.

The biggest problems those guys have is that they arent big enough for basketball. AI is an extreme exception, Gymnists are lucky to be 5'8, best case they could be a nickel back in the NFL. Volleyball players are the most likely to succeed in basketball but I tended to find that the people who played that at school did it because they couldnt catch a ball so they couldnt play the more "skill" based sports, not to take anything away from the skill involved in volleyball, but its a very different skill set.
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Old 01-24-2007, 10:40 AM   #23
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They might not have been good volleyball players either though.

You take the top 10% of white volleyball players around the world and instead have them play basketball 4 hours a day since they were 8 and I guarantee you not only would there be more white players in the NBA, there would also be an almost complete elimination of the white player stereotype as only being good outside shooters.

Again, blacks would still be more athletic and still dominate the sport, but you'd have more white players that could jump just as high as black players and would have the necessary skill set because they DID play basketball for their entire lives.

The reason those white guys at your school couldn't make the bball team probably has more to do with them never trying to be great on their own time than them being naturally uncoordinated. Like you partially implied, volleyball isn't a sport you can play without some sort of skill.
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Old 01-24-2007, 10:46 AM   #24
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To bad d'Antoni isnt bkack, because that will be the first time that 2 white foreign player with two black coach are leading the Nba.

not foreignors, but KC jones was the Celtic coach while Bird and McHale were there

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Nope, he is Asian.

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Old 01-24-2007, 10:58 AM   #26
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They might not have been good volleyball players either though.

You take the top 10% of white volleyball players around the world and instead have them play basketball 4 hours a day since they were 8 and I guarantee you not only would there be more white players in the NBA, there would also be an almost complete elimination of the white player stereotype as only being good outside shooters.

Again, blacks would still be more athletic and still dominate the sport, but you'd have more white players that could jump just as high as black players and would have the necessary skill set because they DID play basketball for their entire lives.

The reason those white guys at your school couldn't make the bball team probably has more to do with them never trying to be great on their own time than them being naturally uncoordinated. Like you partially implied, volleyball isn't a sport you can play without some sort of skill.
When I played volleyball in college, there were 5 White players on the volleyball team that had higher verticals than anyone on the basketball team, which was 95% black.
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Old 01-24-2007, 11:08 AM   #27
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Nope, he is Asian.

woods is asian ?
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Old 01-24-2007, 11:31 AM   #28
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HAHA white folks always try to find a way to let their race shine in anything that is dominated by blacks. C'mon crackers, you already run the world, let the minorities have something of their own.

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woods is asian ?

Yall are both right. He's mixed, black and asian.
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Old 01-24-2007, 11:33 AM   #29
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Race should be a non-issue now a days, why even bring it up?
Because ignoring it doesn't solve anything.

Race is actually a very serious issue in this country (still), but gets swept under the rug because we "should" be past it. It's counterproductive.
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woods is asian ?
He is just a Asian as he is Black (Mom is Asian, Dad is Black).
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