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Old 01-24-2007, 02:52 AM   #1
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Mavs and Suns are the two best teams in the league and they are being led by white players...who would have thought it?
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Old 01-24-2007, 03:01 AM   #2
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Mavs and Suns are the two best teams in the league and they are being led by white players...who would have thought it?

And to think they were starting teammates for years.
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Old 01-24-2007, 03:09 AM   #3
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Mavs and Suns are the two best teams in the league and they are being led by white players...who would have thought it?
why is it wierd that 2 white players are leading the 2best teams in the league, why does race always have to be involved when it comes to sport? its all about skill, not your race
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Old 01-24-2007, 03:11 AM   #4
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why is it wierd that 2 white players are leading the 2best teams in the league, why does race always have to be involved when it comes to sport? its all about skill, not your race

For some reason I find this reply very funny.
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Old 01-24-2007, 03:17 AM   #6
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why is it wierd that 2 white players are leading the 2best teams in the league, why does race always have to be involved when it comes to sport? its all about skill, not your race


because you'd have to be naiive or live in Brady Bunch world to not know the fact that "Black people are better natural athletes than any other race". Meaning in a sport where athletism plays such a big key, it's natural for Black people to dominate. In this day and age for two White guys to be the clear cut best player/leader of the two best teams in the league... it IS rare. It's not racism, it's not looking down on White people, it's realistic to go "wow who woulda expected this"

Kinda like if UC Berkeley suddenly announces that more Blacks and Mexicans made the school this year than Asians... it would be realistic to go "Wow". It wouldn't make anyone a racist.

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Old 01-24-2007, 03:21 AM   #7
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I don't really care what the race of the player who is leading the best teams in the NBA is...although I'll agree that blacks usually are more athletic.......
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Old 01-24-2007, 03:23 AM   #8
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I don't really care what the race of the player who is leading the best teams in the NBA is...although I'll agree that blacks usually are more athletic.......


Not saying you have to care. I myself don't care.


I just think it's funny when people still play the "there isn't proof that Black people are generally better basketball players than <insert other race>".
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Old 01-24-2007, 03:24 AM   #9
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Mavs and Suns are the two best teams in the league and they are being led by white players...who would have thought it?

And 2 African Americans are coaching against each other in the Super Bowl

And the Best golfer in the World Is African American

And arguably the best rapper in the past 7 years is White
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Old 01-24-2007, 03:25 AM   #10
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Either just before Bill Russell was drafted or maybe some point between 73-78 when Barry, Havlichek/cowens, Walton, and Westphal all led great teams. Not sure the years matched up though.
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because you'd have to be naiive or live in Brady Bunch world to not know the fact that "Black people are better natural athletes than any other race". Meaning in a sport where athletism plays such a big key, it's natural for Black people to dominate. In this day and age for two White guys to be the clear cut best player/leader of the two best teams in the league... it IS rare. It's not racism, it's not looking down on White people, it's realistic to go "wow who woulda expected this"

Kinda like if UC Berkeley suddenly announces that more Blacks and Mexicans made the school this year than Asians... it would be realistic to go "Wow". It wouldn't make anyone a racist.
i know for a fact that, "black people are better natural athletes then any other race." Im just saying that at the start of the thread, he makes it sound like such a big deal that 2white guys are, the best players in the 2top teams. It really isnt such a big deal.
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Race should be a non-issue now a days, why even bring it up?
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I think if blacks were predispositioned to become better basketball players due to race than Africa would be the hotbed of basketball talent that Europe in reality is.

Blacks dominate American basketball because so many black Americans played the game daily from a young age and they advanced further and more quickly in their development. The type of game played in the inner city is an athletic one, so black players adopt this style of play, the same way a kid from Indiana is a great shooter because he grew up shooting all day.

White players more and moe are beginning to play the athletic game nowadays, whereas in the past white players were more likely to frown upon showboating and relying on talent as oppose to skill.

It is a facile analogy to assume blacks are predispositioned to be better players, because it is a cultural phenomenon that makes them more dominant not race. You used the Aisan student analogy as well, when you probably know East Asian schools have much stricter standards in math and science than North American ones and East Asian families place a higher emphasis on study. A lot of Asian students struggle in liberal arts programs.

Culturally determined, not racially
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I think if blacks were predispositioned to become better basketball players due to race than Africa would be the hotbed of basketball talent that Europe in reality is.

Blacks dominate American basketball because so many black Americans played the game daily from a young age and they advanced further and more quickly in their development. The type of game played in the inner city is an athletic one, so black players adopt this style of play, the same way a kid from Indiana is a great shooter because he grew up shooting all day.

White players more and moe are beginning to play the athletic game nowadays, whereas in the past white players were more likely to frown upon showboating and relying on talent as oppose to skill.

It is a facile analogy to assume blacks are predispositioned to be better players, because it is a cultural phenomenon that makes them more dominant not race. You used the Aisan student analogy as well, when you probably know East Asian schools have much stricter standards in math and science than North American ones and East Asian families place a higher emphasis on study. A lot of Asian students struggle in liberal arts programs.

Culturally determined, not racially

Agree... ..I learned most of that in Sociology 101, race doesnt excist yet its still an issue. As more cultures embrace the game of Basketball, more cultures will continue to develop and produce NBA caliber players. Nash is Canadian and Dirk is German, so they dont even fall under the stereo typical "American White Guy". If anything, this is just further evidence that WE (as Americans) dont dominate the sport as we once did.

Its not a Black and White issue,

Its a US and International issue.
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Not only they are white guys but they are foreign.

To bad d'Antoni isnt bkack, because that will be the first time that 2 white foreign player with two black coach are leading the Nba.
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