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Old 07-31-2012, 04:13 PM   #16
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The FT's didn't flow like water like thy do today, so yeah, it kinda is. Guys actually had to MAKE SHOTS back then a lot more than they do today, with the parade to the FT line many of today's stars have seen the last several years.
League Average eFG%

'80s: .491
'90s: .488
'00s: .484

League Average PPG

'80s: 109.3
'90s: 101.0
'00s: 96.9

% of Points from the Freethrow line

'80s: 20.3
'90s: 19.8
'00s: 19.5
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League Average eFG%

'80s: .491
'90s: .488
'00s: .484

League Average PPG

'80s: 109.3
'90s: 101.0
'00s: 96.9

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'80s: 20.3
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1992 Eastern Conference Semifinals - Game 7
Larry Bird: 12 pts, 5 reb, 4 ast, 0 stl, 0 blk, 2 tov, 6-9 FG, 0-0 3PT, 0-0 FT (L)

Why does this one make the list?

but none of these...listed at the youtube link?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWr5JLVZV-E

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Larry Bird 39/12/10 vs. Knicks (Game 7 1984 ECSF)

1987 ECF vs. Pistons - 37/9/9 including scoring or assisting on nearly every shot in the last 6 minutes of the game.

1987 ECSF vs. Bucks - 31 pts, 13 of them in the fourth quarter. Wayne Gretzky credited Bird's performance to "inspiring him" later on that night. He said, "I was watching Bird this afternoon on television, and the announcers kept talking about how the Celtics needed him to score if they were going to win, and in the fourth quarter Bird took charge and the Celtics won. When I came to the arena tonight, I was determined to do the same thing."
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Old 07-31-2012, 05:37 PM   #19
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Why does this one make the list?

but none of these...listed at the youtube link?
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1987 Eastern Conference Semifinals - Game 7
Larry Bird: 31 pts, 10 reb, 8 ast, 2 stl, 2 blk, 3 tov, 9-21 FG, 0-1 3PT, 13-13 FT (W)

1987 Eastern Conference Finals - Game 7
Larry Bird: 37 pts, 9 reb, 9 ast, 0 stl, 2 blk, 3 tov, 13-24 FG, 1-2 3PT, 10-10 FT (W)

1988 Eastern Conference Semifinals - Game 7
Larry Bird: 34 pts, 4 reb, 6 ast, 1 stl, 1 blk, 4 tov, 15-24 FG, 1-3 3PT, 3-3 FT (W)
I'm slowly adding them all, don't worry.
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Old 07-31-2012, 10:18 PM   #20
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'70s and '80s now added.

I can't find the complete stats of non-Finals Playoffs games before 1984, except any of Wilt games.

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Barkley with 44 and 24. Wow.
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Jordan was only in three game 7's?
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Game 7 1984 Finals
Bird 6/18 FG 8/8 FT 20/12/3 W
Magic 5/14 FG 6/7 FT 16/5/15 L
Kareem 12/22 FG 5/8 FT 29/6/4 L

Game 7 1982 ECF
Bird 7/18 FG 6/8 FT 20/11/9 L
Erving 10/21 FG 9/9 FT 29/4/5 W

Game 7 1981 ECF
Bird 8 FG, 6/7 FT 23/ W
Erving 11 FG 1/2 FT L

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http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=186698

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Bill Russell 18.6 pts 29.3 rbs 10W-0L

19pts 32rbs W 1957 Finals Game 7 vs St Louis Hawks: Boston won 125-123 (2OT)

18pts 32rbs W 1959 EDF Game 7 vs Syracuse: Boston won 130-125

22pts 35rbs W 1960 Finals Game 7 vs St Louis Hawks: Boston won 122-103

19pts 22rbs W 1962 EDF Game 7 vs Phila: Boston won 109-107

30pts 40rbs W 1962 Finals Game 7 vs Lakers: Boston won 110-107 (OT)

20pts 24rbs W 1963 EDF Game 7 vs Cincinnati: Boston won 142-131

15pts 29rbs W 1965 EDF Game 7 vs Phila: Boston won 110-109

25pts 32rbs W 1966 Finals Game 7 vs Lakers: Boston won 95-93

12pts 26rbs W 1968 EDF Game 7 vs Phila: Boston won 100-96

6pts 21rbs W 1969 Finals Game 7 vs Lakers: Boston won title 108-106


Wilt Chamberlain 25.8 pts 25.3 rbs 4W-5L

22pts 21rbs L 1962 EDF Game 7 vs Celtics:*Wilt 22 pts(7-14) 21 rebs, Phila 107-109 lost by 2 point (in the final 2 seconds, Sam James hit a clutch shot. Wilt was sandwiched by the entire Celtics frontline)

39pts 26rbs W 1964 WDF Game 7 vs. St Louis Hawks:*Wilt scored 39 pts 26 rebs 12 blocks, Warriors won 105-95

30pts 32rbs L 1965 EDF Game 7 vs Phila: Havlicek stole the ball, Celtics won 110-109; Wilt scored*30 pts 32 rebs in a 1 point loss

14pts 34rbs L 1968 EDF Game 7 vs Phila: Boston won 100-96, Wilt snatched 34 rebounds but scored just 14 points (on 4-of-9 shooting) and attempted only two field goals in the second half. Hal Greer (8-of-25) Matt Guokas (2-of-10), Wally Jones (8-of-22) Chet Walker (8-of-22) and Luke Jackson (7-of-17) couldn't have hit water from a boat. Their combined 33-of-96 (34 percent) and 20-of-36 from the foul line all but assured that the 76ers would cough up the series after building a commanding 3-1 lead.

18pts 27rbs L 1969 Finals Game 7 vs Lakers: Wilt 18pts 27rbs, Lakers lost 106-108 (Head coach BVK refused put Wilt back to the court due to personal grudge)

30pts 27rbs W 1970 WDS Game 7 vs Phoenix Suns: Wilt 30pts 27 rebounds 11 blocks, Baylor 25pts, Jerry West 19pts, Lakers won 129-94, Wilt's big game helped Lakers became the 2nd team to come back from 1-3

21pts 24rbs L 1970 Finals Game 7 vs Knicks: Wilt 21pts(10-16) 24rbs 4 ast, Jerry West 28pts(9-19) 6rbs 5ast, Baylor 19pts(9-17) 6rbs 6ast, Lakers lost 99-113

25pts 18rbs W 1971 WCS Game 7 vs Chicago Bulls: Wilt 15pts 19rbs, Jerry West and Baylor didn't play due to injury, Lakers won 109-98

21pts 28rbs W 1973 WCS Game 7 vs Chicago Bulls: Wilt 21pts 28rbs, Jerry West 27pts, Bulls trailed 92-91 in the last half-minute, and Bulls had the ball, then Chamberlain blocked a shot by Norm Van Lier, threw a full-court pass to Gail goodrich, who scored, and the Lakers had the lead for the first time in the second half. Jerry West added two foul shots with two seconds to go, Lakers won 95-92

Jerry West 30.8 pts 5W-5L

L 1961 WDF Game 7 v.s. St Louis Hawks: Baylor 39 pts, West 29 pts, Lakers lost by 2pts 105-103

L 1962 Finals Game 7 v.s. Celtics: Jerry West 35 pts, Lakers lost 107-110 in OT

W 1963 WDF Game 7 vs St Louis Hawks: Baylor 35 pts, Jerry West 27 pts, Lakers won 115-110

W 1966 WDF Game 7 vs St Louis Hawks: Baylor 33 pts, Jerry West 35 pts, Lakers won 130-121

L 1966 Finals Game 7 vs Celtics: Baylor 18 pts, Jerry West 36 pts, Lakers lost 93-95

L 1969 Finals Game 7 vs Celtics: Wilt 18pts(7-8) 27rbs 3ast, Jerry West 42pts(14-29) 13rbs 12ast, Baylor 20pts(8-22) 15rbs 7ast, Lakers lost 106-108

W 1970 WDS Game 7 vs Phoenix Suns: Wilt 30pts, Baylor 25pts, Jerry West 19pts, Lakers won 129-94

L 1970 Finals Game 7 vs Knicks: Wilt 21pts(10-16) 24rbs 4 ast, Jerry West 28pts(9-19) 6rbs 5ast, Baylor 19pts(9-17) 6rbs 6ast, Lakers lost 99-113

W 1971 WCS Game 7 vs Chicago Bulls: Wilt 15pts 19rbs, Jerry West and Baylor didn't play due to injury, Lakers won 109-98

W 1973 WCS Game 7 vs Chicago Bulls: Wilt 21pts 28rbs, Jerry West 27pts, Bulls trailed 92-91 in the last half-minute, and Bulls had the ball, then Chamberlain blocked a shot by Norm Van Lier, threw a full-court pass to Gail goodrich, who scored, and the Lakers had the lead for the first time in the second half. Jerry West added two foul shots with two seconds to go, Lakers won 95-92

Elgin Baylor 29.2 pts 4W-6L

L 1960 WDF Game 7 vs. St Louis Hawks: Baylor scored 33 pts while Petit got 28pts, Lakers lost 86-97

L 1961 WDF Game 7 v.s. St Louis Hawks: Baylor 39 pts, West 29 pts, Lakers lost by 2pts 105-103

L 1962 Finals Game 7 v.s. Celtics: Baylor fouled out with 2 minutes left in the OT after scoring 41 pts, Lakers lost 107-110 in OT

W 1963 WDF Game 7 vs St Louis Hawks: Baylor 35 pts, Jerry West 27 pts, Lakers won 115-110

W 1966 WDF Game 7 vs St Louis Hawks: Baylor 33 pts, Jerry West 35 pts, Lakers won 130-121

L 1966 Finals Game 7 vs Celtics: Baylor 18 pts, Jerry West 36 pts, Lakers lost 93-95

L 1969 Finals Game 7 vs Celtics: Wilt 18pts(7-8) 27rbs 3ast, Jerry West 42pts(14-29) 13rbs 12ast, Baylor 20pts(8-22) 15rbs 7ast, Lakers lost 106-108

W 1970 WDS Game 7 vs Phoenix Suns: Wilt 30pts, Baylor 25pts, Jerry West 19pts, Lakers won 129-94

L 1970 Finals Game 7 vs Knicks: Wilt 21pts(10-16) 24rbs 4 ast, Jerry West 28pts(9-19) 6rbs 5ast, Baylor 19pts(9-17) 6rbs 6ast, Lakers lost 99-113

W 1971 WCS Game 7 vs Chicago Bulls: Wilt 15pts 19rbs, Jerry West and Baylor didn't play due to injury, Lakers won 109-98W

Kareem 20.5 pts 10.6 rbs 4W-2L

L 1974 Finals Game 7 vs Celtics: KAJ 236pts 14rbs, KAJ was shut out for nearly 18 minutes in the middle of the game while the Celtics built an insurmountable lead. Cowens scored 28pts 14rbs helped Celtics' 12th title, the 25yr old Big O played 48 minutes got doubled and was held by Don Chaney to have only two baskets in 13 shots, Bucks lost 87-102

W 1977 WCS Game 7 vs Warriors: KAJ scored 36pts 28rbs

L 1984 Finals Game 7 vs Pistons: Jabbar scored game high 29pts(12-22) 6rbs 4ast 2blk, Parish 14pts(4-16) 16rbs 2ast 1blk, Lakers lost in the Finals 102-111

W 1988 WCS Game 7 vs Jazz: KAJ had 11pts(4-10) 4blk, Stockton 29pts 20ast 5stl, Karl Malone 31pts 14rbs, Worthy 23pts 4stl(scored only 4pts in G6), Byron Scott led Lakers with 29pts, but Magic 23pts 16ast 9rbs was the heart and soul of Lakers' victory 109-98

W 1988 WCF Game 7 vs Mavericks: Magic scored 24pts(8pts in 2nd half) 11ast 9rbs, Worthy 28pts, KAJ added 17pts, Lakers won 117-102, Mark Aguirre led Mavericks with 24pts

W 1988 Finals Game 7 vs Pistons: KAJ played 29min only scored 4pts(2-7) 3rbs, Worthy 36pts 16rbs 10ast is the man to Lakers victory, Magic 19pts(6-9) 14ast 5rbs, Lakers won title 108-105, Isiah 10pts(4-12)

Magic Johnson 20.5 pts 14 ast 3W-1L

L 1984 Finals Game 7 vs Celtics: Magic managed 16pts(5-14) 5rbs 15ast 7tov, Lakers lost 102-111

W 1988 WCS Game 7 vs Jazz: Magic was the heart and soul, 23pts 16ast, of Lakers' victory 109-98

W 1988 WCF Game 7 vs Mavericks: Magic scored 24pts 11ast 9rbs, Worthy 28pts, Lakers won 117-102

W 1988 Finals Game 7 vs Pistons: Worthy 36pts 16rbs 10ast, Magic 19pts(6-9) 14ast 5rbs, Lakers won title 108-105

Michael Jordan 33.6 pts 7.6 rbs 2W-1L

L 1990 ECF Game 7 vs. Pistons:*31pts 8rbs 9ast, Bulls lost 74-93

W 1992 ECS Game 7 vs Knicks: Jordan finishes with 42pts (15-29), 6rbds, 4 asts. the Chicago Bulls defeated in the New York Knicks, 110-81

W 1998 ECF Game 7 vs Pacers:*Jordan finished 28pts 9rbs 8ast, Bulls won 88-83
All of Bird's, Kobe's, Shaq's, and Duncan's were already mentioned

edit: added Baylor's, Kareem's games, fixed the MJ game

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Game 7 1984 Finals
Bird 6/18 FG 8/8 FT 20/12/3 W
Magic 5/14 FG 6/7 FT 16/5/15 L
Kareem 12/22 FG 5/8 FT 29/6/4 L

Game 7 1982 ECF
Bird 7/18 FG 6/8 FT 20/11/9 L
Erving 10/21 FG 9/9 FT 29/4/5 W

Game 7 1981 ECF
Bird 8 FG, 6/7 FT 23/ W
Erving 11 FG 1/2 FT L

From this thread made by alexandreben

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=186698


All of Bird's, Kobe's, Shaq's, and Duncan's were already mentioned

edit: added Baylor's, Kareem's games, fixed the MJ game
Thanks. Will use those rebounding numbers from Russell when I do the '60s.
I have fpliii's google doc of the game 7 Wilt vs Russell matchups to help me on that too.
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Jordan was only in three game 7's?
Bulls closed shit early most of the time.
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2006 WCF was such a great series.

It was a stark contrast from the disgrace of a Finals that followed.
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Bulls closed shit early most of the time.
they wrapped their shit up quick!

are we including game 5's?
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Thanks. Will use those rebounding numbers from Russell when I do the '60s.
I have fpliii's google doc of the game 7 Wilt vs Russell matchups to help me on that too.



if you give me specific games to look up complete lines for, let me know (do you need game 5's as well for 5-game series?)

btw to outside observers (not that you'll necessarily care), I don't like/dislike Wilt, just wanted to try to complete the matchup table; I actually have Russ higher (one of three guys, with Magic and Jordan, who has an argument for GOAT), so if anything I'm a supporter of his ATM
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Game five's of best-of-five series, and even game three's of best-of-three series should count, as well. Those are "elimination" games.

And, in which case, you SHOULD include Wilt's 56-35 and 53-22 games, too (as well as Kareem and Moses's '81 game three.)

Not only that, but you SHOULD also provide their opposing player's numbers (at least in positional H2H's.) Here again, Chamberlain was outscoring his opposing starting center by as much as 53-7.

BTW, here are Wilt's numbers in his 11 "absolute limit elmination" game's. 29.9 ppg, 26.1 rpg, and on a .581 FG% (incidently, in his game seven's, his FG% was .626, which is the highest of any all-time great in their game seven's.) Not only that, but Chamberlain crushed his opposing centers on the glass in those games, and held them to, on average, 9.8 ppg.
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