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Old 02-12-2013, 09:02 AM   #3781
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Also, I don't like the idea of Messi being on steroids or performance enhancing drugs. For a majority of his life, he was taking growth hormones to help his growth.

That is not a natural athlete but a manufactured player.


I had more skills than some basketball players in the NBA but I am not tall enough to make the team. Does that mean I am an all time great? If it wasn't for growth hormones, Messi doesn't make the team.
exactly, I dont understand why messi gets a free pass and every other athlete on the planet who uses PEDs doesn't.
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Old 02-12-2013, 11:25 AM   #3782
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Shearer behind all those guys?



Not sure what is more unbearable, the ridiculous Cantona nostalgia or the fact that Shearer is underrated placed behind the likes of Owen.
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Old 02-12-2013, 11:45 AM   #3783
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its obvious the hate towards cantona, i know he had many incidents in his career, he might have been a terrible human being, but what does that has to do with anything he did on the pitch. i already discussed about this one year ago, im not going there again... everyone has their own opinion i guess, for example a 'huge barca fan' that thinks CR is better than Ronnie.
Im sure everyone here has some unpopular thoughts about someones career, their own perception of someone that nobody can really change... so i think you are a hypocrite if you judge someone else.
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Old 02-12-2013, 11:46 AM   #3784
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its obvious the hate towards cantona, i know he had many incidents in his career, he might have been a terrible human being, but what does that has to do with anything he did on the pitch. i already discussed about this one year ago, im not going there again... everyone has their own opinion i guess, for example a 'huge barca fan' that thinks CR is better than Ronnie.
Im sure everyone here has some unpopular thoughts about someones career, their own perception of someone that nobody can really change... so i think you are a hypocrite if you judge someone else.
WHy do you overrate Cantona so much he was a charismatic dude but didn't accomplish anything that great other then win loads of premier league titles back in a time when the premier league sucked.
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Old 02-12-2013, 11:46 AM   #3785
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Also, I don't like the idea of Messi being on steroids or performance enhancing drugs. For a majority of his life, he was taking growth hormones to help his growth.

That is not a natural athlete but a manufactured player.

I had more skills than some basketball players in the NBA but I am not tall enough to make the team. Does that mean I am an all time great? If it wasn't for growth hormones, Messi doesn't make the team.
Please keep your intelligent posts in the nba forum. Thanks.
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Old 02-12-2013, 11:57 AM   #3786
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exactly, I dont understand why messi gets a free pass and every other athlete on the planet who uses PEDs doesn't.
pepe > messi. Pepe didn't needs peds like that nikka
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Old 02-12-2013, 11:57 AM   #3787
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WHy do you overrate Cantona so much he was a charismatic dude but didn't accomplish anything that great other then win loads of premier league titles back in a time when the premier league sucked.
like EPL right now is any better? united are already running away with the title.. and thats not because they are anything special, its because everyone else sucks. at least back in the 90s you had players who worked their ass in one year to get wages that players now get in like few weeks for just sitting on the bench and clubbing and going drunk in training.
as for france he wasnt really liked by the media because of his suspensions and craziness and coaches didnt like him either, and they had some shitty players until zidane came and basically stole his role... he still could have played but he decided to let the youngsters zidane and scholes step up and have more space... look at them now
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Old 02-12-2013, 11:58 AM   #3788
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pepe > messi. Pepe didn't needs peds like that nikka
pretty sure pepe takes some illegal meds to cure his craziness
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Old 02-12-2013, 12:29 PM   #3789
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Bunch of Americans talking football is all I see and not knowing shit.

My god your nation is as stupid in every aspect of life as the media makes you out to be.

Luckly the jews run your country.
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Old 02-12-2013, 12:54 PM   #3790
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Old 02-12-2013, 12:59 PM   #3791
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btw we have celtic- juve and valencia-psg tonight... should be two tough games, low on goals

but tomorrow should be amazing, two good teams that i almost equally hate
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we can only hope for a match like this

and this is not even peak ronaldo, this is after many surgeries
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Old 02-12-2013, 01:51 PM   #3792
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Bunch of Americans talking football is all I see and not knowing shit.

My god your nation is as stupid in every aspect of life as the media makes you out to be.

Luckly the jews run your country.
You sound upset and ignorant and support an american league and american player in your Avi and post on and american site runned by an american. You cant hold your love for them in your heart.
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Old 02-12-2013, 04:42 PM   #3793
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Shearer behind all those guys?



Not sure what is more unbearable, the ridiculous Cantona nostalgia or the fact that Shearer is underrated placed behind the likes of Owen.

Peak Owen performed on international basis. Shearer never did that. He might be a better scorer than Henry,Drogba and Cantona but he was not as complete as them or a better footballer.
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Old 02-12-2013, 05:01 PM   #3794
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Shearer was a more complete player than Owen, his hold up play and link up play was better to go along with the fact that he was a better striker in terms of movement , finishing and power.

A UEFA cup doesn't make Owen better than anyone, neither does a undeserved Balon D' or in 01.

Henry is the only person on your list who is clearly a better player. Cantona might be complete in that he had a better first touch and better link up play but that doesn't circumvent the fact that he was wildly inconsistent with his effort and his ability to fully commit to the CF position was questionable. He was not Bergkamp who could do anything with the ball - he was not Heskey who aggressively ran channels and did work. He merely marauded around the field waiting for something to happen for him. Think a really less talented version of Zlatan.

He is a PL legend no doubt. But if people want to push this ridiculous notion that Cantona is an all time great - download an old United game . Don't insert him into a league of players he doesn't belong.

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Old 02-12-2013, 05:39 PM   #3795
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Bunch of Americans talking football is all I see and not knowing shit.

My god your nation is as stupid in every aspect of life as the media makes you out to be.

Luckly the jews run your country.

SOmeone miss their meds?
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