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Old 11-20-2012, 04:09 PM   #1
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Default The Clippers are better without Paul than with him

After analyzing the +/- statitistics published by 82games.com, it is hard to come up with a differnt conclusion. Notably, as myself and even clippersfan86 have been pointing out, he is the worst defender in the league, The clips allow 103 pp100p with him on the floor and only 93 when he's on the bench, much more than offsetting the marginal boost in offense he gives them.

Interestingly, even players who usually share the floor with him like Jordan and Griffin are net contributors with positive +/-, which suggests Paul himself is at fault. watching a few clippers games this year confirms that to me. He was simply torched by most of his matchups and it wasn't until Bledsoe came in that the Clippers got their leads.

If VDN is a halfway decent coach, he will continue to grow Bledsoe's minutes and reduce the amount of time Paul is sabotaging their defense.
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Old 11-20-2012, 04:11 PM   #2
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Old 11-20-2012, 04:12 PM   #3
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Default Re: The Clippers are better without Paul than with him

I understand that numbers mean a lot bu the Clippers won't go fr in the playoffs without Paul.
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Old 11-20-2012, 04:14 PM   #4
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Old 11-20-2012, 04:14 PM   #5
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After analyzing 2 of OP's posts i came to the realization that he's retarded.
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Old 11-20-2012, 04:22 PM   #6
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Default Re: The Clippers are better without Paul than with him

OP is clipperfan86 alt.
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Old 11-20-2012, 04:26 PM   #7
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Default Re: The Clippers are better without Paul than with him

Blake Griffin is better without CP3.

That's where the buck stops.
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Old 11-20-2012, 04:34 PM   #8
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ISH is better without the OP than with her.
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Old 11-20-2012, 04:35 PM   #9
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Old 11-20-2012, 04:36 PM   #10
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CP3 is the only reason they are a contender because he is the only one on the team that can take over games like a superstar.
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Old 11-20-2012, 05:02 PM   #11
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Lol because n.o got so much better after the cp trade and clipps got so much worse lol, op's ugly skank that had crush on cp but got knocked back
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Default Re: The Clippers are better without Paul than with him

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After analyzing the +/- statitistics published by 82games.com, it is hard to come up with a differnt conclusion. Notably, as myself and even clippersfan86 have been pointing out, he is the worst defender in the league, The clips allow 103 pp100p with him on the floor and only 93 when he's on the bench, much more than offsetting the marginal boost in offense he gives them.

Interestingly, even players who usually share the floor with him like Jordan and Griffin are net contributors with positive +/-, which suggests Paul himself is at fault. watching a few clippers games this year confirms that to me. He was simply torched by most of his matchups and it wasn't until Bledsoe came in that the Clippers got their leads.

If VDN is a halfway decent coach, he will continue to grow Bledsoe's minutes and reduce the amount of time Paul is sabotaging their defense.

Ok so I am not going to blast like you like the other posts above. But I will factually back up what their point that this claim with +/- evidence is incorrect and their is no proper evidence saying Chris Paul brings down the clippers.

It is very simple. When Chris Paul is not on the floor, generally, neither is the starting unit of the opponent. So what the +/- is saying is that the Clippers back ups out produce the opponents back ups. There are probably more reasons in addition to this.

This is a case of misinterpretation of statistics. Sports fans do it alot.
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Old 11-20-2012, 06:30 PM   #13
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Default Re: The Clippers are better without Paul than with him

Blake Griffin doesn't seem to be flourishing with Chirs Paul on the floor. I thought they would be a good fit but it doesn't look like it.
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Ok so I am not going to blast like you like the other posts above. But I will factually back up what their point that this claim with +/- evidence is incorrect and their is no proper evidence saying Chris Paul brings down the clippers.

It is very simple. When Chris Paul is not on the floor, generally, neither is the starting unit of the opponent. So what the +/- is saying is that the Clippers back ups out produce the opponents back ups. There are probably more reasons in addition to this.

This is a case of misinterpretation of statistics. Sports fans do it alot.

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