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Old 12-27-2011, 03:29 AM   #16
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Default Re: If Rose was a SG what would be his PPG and APG

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It renders him less effective because he's making the team around him worse by emphasizing getting his shots, instead of looking for the pass that could potentially result in a higher percentage shot (like he does now). If we're talking about Rose playing the 2 on this current Bulls roster, chances are the Bulls replace him with a PG that has a significantly smaller impact (if any) on the Bulls offense. That, in itself, leads me to believe that he'd be less effective as an overall player when compared to the player he is now as a PG.

It's similar to Kobe catching all the "ball hog" heat. You see those games where Kobe is looking to pass and keep his teammates involved... then you look at the box score, see he had a sub-par offensive effort and the Lakers took the L. Kobe is less effective as a facilitator than he is as a primarily offensive player. Sort of the reverse of the Rose situation (Kobe less effective when looking to pass/distribute, Rose less effective when looking to primarily score).
EXACTLY, which is why his pre-game Win against the Pacers is one of his best games since he made Boozer the primary scorer on the team, and he "cleaned up" at the final minutes.
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Old 12-27-2011, 03:35 AM   #17
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It renders him less effective because he's making the team around him worse by emphasizing getting his shots, instead of looking for the pass that could potentially result in a higher percentage shot (like he does now). If we're talking about Rose playing the 2 on this current Bulls roster, chances are the Bulls replace him with a PG that has a significantly smaller impact (if any) on the Bulls offense. That, in itself, leads me to believe that he'd be less effective as an overall player when compared to the player he is now as a PG.

It's similar to Kobe catching all the "ball hog" heat. You see those games where Kobe is looking to pass and keep his teammates involved... then you look at the box score, see he had a sub-par offensive effort and the Lakers took the L. Kobe is less effective as a facilitator than he is as a primarily offensive player. Sort of the reverse of the Rose situation (Kobe less effective when looking to pass/distribute, Rose less effective when looking to primarily score).

Uhmm, ur right. I still think hed average like 30+ and 5/6, but hed def be less effective for the Bulls.

How bout u answer my og question now :) wut would u think his stats would be as an SG?
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Old 12-27-2011, 03:37 AM   #18
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Default Re: If Rose was a SG what would be his PPG and APG

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I think he thought u meant Rose. I did so too until I double checked.
Yeah I just double checked myself.....carry on!!
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Old 12-27-2011, 03:51 AM   #19
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Default Re: If Rose was a SG what would be his PPG and APG

You people dont stop do you?..... He's still the best PG regardless of whatever gripes u have with him. pg getting hated on is gonna be ty lawson. Nezt, because he's a scorer.
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Old 12-27-2011, 03:52 AM   #20
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Uhmm, ur right. I still think hed average like 30+ and 5/6, but hed def be less effective for the Bulls.

How bout u answer my og question now :) wut would u think his stats would be as an SG?

Like I said, it's sort of tough to say. Maybe 22 PPG, although I think teams would eventually take something away from his driving game by encouraging their guys to collapse on him. He'd have to work even harder on his shooting... dudes jumper is looking wet these days but it would have to be automatic, and he could still improve on the 3-pt shot. It gets better and better with each passing season but it's not crossing over into "lethal" territory yet.
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Old 12-27-2011, 03:53 AM   #21
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Uhmm, ur right. I still think hed average like 30+ and 5/6, but hed def be less effective for the Bulls.

How bout u answer my og question now :) wut would u think his stats would be as an SG?
the same.... i dont see anything being different. his skill will still be in tact to do what he does, and 2guards can't check him.
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Old 12-27-2011, 04:05 AM   #22
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The exact same . Bulls don't have a PG to create offense for others, thus Rose would be asked to do the same duties.

Just because he's not Chris Paul doesn't mean he's not a PG. He still has the ability to run an offense, get others looks. Just at his best when he's looking for his shot first, if your the Bulls you don't want him taking anything less than 15 shots a game. Even if you brang in a PG unless it was Paul or Deron whom were truly elite at making plays you wouldn't want the ball out of Rose's hands. You want it in his hands as the PG either A) creating for himself or B) creating for others.

Like any player his team is obviously going to struggle when he's not making shots. Probably one of the reasons for this thread.
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