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Old 12-04-2012, 02:58 PM   #121
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That is seriously how I meant it...I know that the common fan considers Barry to be the GOAT, had I said Emmitt or Tomlinson or Faulk it wouldn't be as impactful as Barry to most people



Jim Brown actually had a 6.4 year, which is insane...so couldn't use him
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Old 12-04-2012, 03:00 PM   #122
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If AD did have finish with 2,000 yards at 6.2 YPC I do think it would be arguably the greatest year a RB has ever had

again..."arguably"
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Old 12-04-2012, 03:27 PM   #123
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Tomlinson 1800 yards, 5.2 a carry, 31 total touchdowns, 500 recieving yards....insane. I don't think Peterson has any argument over Tomlinsons year.
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Old 12-04-2012, 03:44 PM   #124
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because of the TDs?...that year Tomlinson had is also arguably the greatest ever, 31 TDs is ridiculous

AD isn't finished though...it is unlikely he will do 2,000 at 6.2 anyway, but it is possible
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Old 12-10-2012, 03:52 AM   #125
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I might be in the minority in this, but I'll take current Adrian Peterson over peak Barry Sanders all day. Sanders would break tons of long runs, but he also a bunch of carries that ended up in negative yardage, he was unpredictable. Peterson is like a faster version of Emmit Smith.
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I might be in the minority in this, but I'll take current Adrian Peterson over peak Barry Sanders all day. Sanders would break tons of long runs, but he also a bunch of carries that ended up in negative yardage, he was unpredictable. Peterson is like a faster version of Emmit Smith.
yeah, Barry couldn't pass protect or play goal line either...I would rather have AD as well

Barry was amazing though, greatest open field runner of all time, he just had some pretty big flaws
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Old 12-10-2012, 01:16 PM   #127
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Peterson needs to average 134 yards over the next 3 games to hit 2,000

it's doable, I think it will be close...
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Old 12-10-2012, 02:01 PM   #128
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yeah, Barry couldn't pass protect or play goal line either...I would rather have AD as well

Barry was amazing though, greatest open field runner of all time, he just had some pretty big flaws

Sanders lack of goal line "production" is really a bit of a misnomer and had more to do with the system the Lions ran under Fontes and their overall roster make-up. Under Fontes, the Lions rarely used a tight end or full back, and were lost once they got anywhere within five yards of the goal line. Most any running back would suffer in that circumstance.
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Old 12-10-2012, 02:12 PM   #129
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Sanders lack of goal line "production" is really a bit of a misnomer and had more to do with the system the Lions ran under Fontes and their overall roster make-up. Under Fontes, the Lions rarely used a tight end or full back, and were lost once they got anywhere within five yards of the goal line. Most any running back would suffer in that circumstance.
no, he couldn't run between the tackles...he was notorious for wanting to bounce outside the hole...Barry was benched a lot in the redzone for that reason, they put in other RBs
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Old 12-10-2012, 04:27 PM   #130
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I might be in the minority in this, but I'll take current Adrian Peterson over peak Barry Sanders all day. Sanders would break tons of long runs, but he also a bunch of carries that ended up in negative yardage, he was unpredictable. Peterson is like a faster version of Emmit Smith.

The negative yards is overstated mumbo jumbo. You know who brought this crap up? Emmitt Smith fanboys. Its a classic case of lets find something to highlight as a negative and magnify it. Watch how I stump you. You claimed Barry had a bunch of carries that ended up in negative yardage.

1. How many were they?
2. How many did Emmitt have?
3. How many does Peterson have?
4. How many did Walter Payton have?

You see whats happening here? You honestly dont know and have to go google these things hoping someone actually did research on this and you can copy/paste it here.

My point is dont go around throwing this negative yardage crap around unless you have a solid list of other great RBs and their negative yardage. Chances are you'll go googling up a storm to see what human actually did this homework so you can put your name on it.

For as many negative yards Barry had as you claimed he avg 5.0ypc. He holds a 6.1ypc in 1997. How many negative yards did he have that year? Dont answer because you have no clue. Somehow its relevant to you (get real). So riddle me this how is it this guy has so many negative yards carry yet his overall stats stack up among the best if not is the best?

I'm pretty sure Peterson doesnt have 1/3 of the negative yards Barry did yet for a career Peterson avg 5.0ypc vs Barry 5.0ypc


prime speaking of flaws its funny you always highlight those of Barry Sanders yet you never do that with Randy Moss. You talk all this complete player nonsense yet Randy Moss wasnt a great blocker. Randy Moss didnt run crisp routes. Randy Moss took plays off. Not only witnessed on the field but it came from HIS OWN DAMN MOUTH. But you'll talk up Moss as the best WR of all time. You'll praise Moss how much of a beast he was. Yet never throw out these FLAWS he has as a player like you do Barry Sanders. F*cking interesting.

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Old 12-10-2012, 04:38 PM   #131
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Emmitt fans??? NFL Films started it with a film called "Barry Runs Backwards"

can be seen here:

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-h...-Backward-Runs
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Old 12-10-2012, 05:59 PM   #132
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I'm hearing a lot of talk about AD in the MVP race on the radio now...

I think if the Vikes were to make the post season, he might actually have a shot at it...
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Old 12-10-2012, 06:22 PM   #133
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No he wouldn't.

Not unless Brady and Manning have terrible endings to their season and Rodgers doesn't play well. Rodgers is very realistically going to end up 4250 total yards, 35+ total touchdowns, 100+ rating and a first round bye.
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Old 12-10-2012, 06:23 PM   #134
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Emmitt fans??? NFL Films started it with a film called "Barry Runs Backwards"

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http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-h...-Backward-Runs

Yes Emmitt fanboys started the whole negative yards/Barry Sanders nonsense. You believe NFL Films did. Solid and ohhhh so not surprising. Guess what? I never saw this from NFL Films before.
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Old 12-10-2012, 06:33 PM   #135
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Yes Emmitt fanboys started the whole negative yards/Barry Sanders nonsense. You believe NFL Films did. Solid and ohhhh so not surprising. Guess what? I never saw this from NFL Films before.
I'm surprised you haven't seen that...It was shown quite a bit back then

half time during Lion's Thanksgiving game and such...

that's when everyone started talking about him running in reverse...after that film was showed



you should check out Jordan "Come Fly with Me" too...
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