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Old 05-16-2013, 07:48 PM   #1411
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Catchweight around 150. Both guys have to make a comprimise, problem solved.
Not sure if serious, Floyd doesn't have the compromise anything. The ball is in his court. He's the 17 year pro, who won his first title in 1998.

This would be like a young Floyd asking Pernell Whitaker for demands in in 1998 for a title fight. PErnell would laugh and say next. You have to answer to the vet.
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Old 05-16-2013, 08:55 PM   #1412
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Not sure if serious, Floyd doesn't have the compromise anything. The ball is in his court. He's the 17 year pro, who won his first title in 1998.

This would be like a young Floyd asking Pernell Whitaker for demands in in 1998 for a title fight. PErnell would laugh and say next. You have to answer to the vet.

I agree, that's like Marquez asking the p4p and ppv king Mayweather to go down in weight and fight him at 144 after a two-year layoff. It's ridiculous, really. Floyd has been fighting legends for years while JMM's best win of his career was against Baby Bull Juan Diaz lol. Floyd would just laugh at him. Top dogs don't have to compromise anything to make good fights.
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Old 05-16-2013, 09:16 PM   #1413
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I agree, that's like Marquez asking the p4p and ppv king Mayweather to go down in weight and fight him at 144 after a two-year layoff. It's ridiculous, really. Floyd has been fighting legends for years while JMM's best win of his career was against Baby Bull Juan Diaz lol. Floyd would just laugh at him. Top dogs don't have to compromise anything to make good fights.
This is a good and bad comparison.

The Good: Marquez agreed to Floyd's terms, like Canelo should. It's in Floyd's court, he's the money maker.

The Bad: Marquez is older than Floyd, has been a pro longer than Floyd. He won his first title before Floyd did. Marquez was not some little dude wet behind his ears.


Bonus: When Floyd fought De La Hoya, the ball was in Oscar's court and Floyd went up to 154 for the first time to face the Golden Boy.
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Old 05-16-2013, 10:23 PM   #1414
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This is a good and bad comparison.

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The Good: Marquez agreed to Floyd's terms, like Canelo should. It's in Floyd's court, he's the money maker.

The Point: A compromise was reached.

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The Bad: Marquez is older than Floyd, has been a pro longer than Floyd. He won his first title before Floyd did. Marquez was not some little dude wet behind his ears.

You're saying it's only fine for a fighter to compromise something against an older guy but not against a younger guy? That must be why Floyd is willing to fight Sergio at 150.

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Bonus: When Floyd fought De La Hoya, the ball was in Oscar's court and Floyd went up to 154 for the first time to face the Golden Boy.

Bonus: When Oscar challenged Pacquiao he was still the biggest superstar in boxing. The money maker. Pacquiao was at 140 at that time and younger, Oscar was at 154 and older but the met halfway.

The Good: A compromise was reached regardless of age and star status of the fighters.
The Good: The fight was made. The boxing fans were happy.
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Old 05-16-2013, 10:33 PM   #1415
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The Point: A compromise was reached.



You're saying it's only fine for a fighter to compromise something against an older guy but not against a younger guy? That must be why Floyd is willing to fight Sergio at 150.



Bonus: When Oscar challenged Pacquiao he was still the biggest superstar in boxing. The money maker. Pacquiao was at 140 at that time and younger, Oscar was at 154 and older but the met halfway.

The Good: A compromise was reached regardless of age and star status of the fighters.
The Good: The fight was made. The boxing fans were happy.
But Oscar challenged Manny right? Canelo has been the one calling out Floyd, not the other way around.
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Old 05-16-2013, 11:11 PM   #1416
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anyone watching Peterson vs. Mattyesse? Should be a fight of the year candidate.
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Old 05-16-2013, 11:29 PM   #1417
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anyone watching Peterson vs. Mattyesse? Should be a fight of the year candidate.
Can't wait. Whoever wins is the best at 140.
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Old 05-16-2013, 11:50 PM   #1418
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But Oscar challenged Manny right? Canelo has been the one calling out Floyd, not the other way around.

pac was P4P #1 when DLH called him out, though only had 1 fight over 130 lbs
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Old 05-16-2013, 11:52 PM   #1419
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But Oscar challenged Manny right? Canelo has been the one calling out Floyd, not the other way around.

Exactly.

The ATG, money maker superstar Oscar, challenged the other superstar, Pac.

Pac didn't made Oscar move down to 140, Oscar didn't made Pac to move up to 150-154. Regardless of who challenged who and who's bigger star than who, two guys that really wanted the fight met halfway.

What's "The Bad" thing about making a reachable and realistic compromise?

Still missing "The Point" and "The Good"? It's right there.
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Old 05-16-2013, 11:54 PM   #1420
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anyone watching Peterson vs. Mattyesse? Should be a fight of the year candidate.

I got Lucas KO'ing Peterson in 5.
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Old 05-17-2013, 12:01 AM   #1421
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I got Lucas KO'ing Peterson in 5.
In 5 ...

His 2 losses are against the only notable names he's faced, Judah and Alexander. This isn't Mike Dallas lol. Lamont's only marks on his record are a loss vs. Tim Bradley and a draw vs. Ortiz.

This is goin the whole 12. If there is a knockout, it will be late not in 5.
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Old 05-17-2013, 12:09 AM   #1422
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In 5 ...

His 2 losses are against the only notable names he's faced, Judah and Alexander. This isn't Mike Dallas lol. Lamont's only marks on his record are a loss vs. Tim Bradley and a draw vs. Ortiz.

This is goin the whole 12. If there is a knockout, it will be late not in 5.

Did you watch both fights? The Judah fight was very close (many people thought he beat Judah) and he got completely robbed against Alexander in Devon's hometown.

I thought Lamont lost to Khan also with the BS points taken from Khan in Peterson's backyard.

This is not going the distance.
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Old 05-17-2013, 12:12 AM   #1423
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In 5 ...

His 2 losses are against the only notable names he's faced, Judah and Alexander. This isn't Mike Dallas lol. Lamont's only marks on his record are a loss vs. Tim Bradley and a draw vs. Ortiz.

This is goin the whole 12. If there is a knockout, it will be late not in 5.

This time it will be a different story. PEDterson is gonna get iced.
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Old 05-17-2013, 12:17 AM   #1424
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Did you watch both fights? The Judah fight was very close (many people thought he beat Judah) and he got completely robbed against Alexander in Devon's hometown.

I thought Lamont lost to Khan also with the BS points taken from Khan in Peterson's backyard.

This is not going the distance.
I'm not sure how you call a split decision a robbery. It was a one point win for Devon.

A robbery was Paul Williams beating Lara a few years back.
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Old 05-17-2013, 12:18 AM   #1425
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I'm not sure how you call a split decision a robbery. It was a one point win for Peterson.

A robbery was Paul Williams beating Lara a few years back.

It should have never come down to a SD.
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