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Old 05-16-2011, 08:08 PM   #31
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Default Re: At 22, has Durant surpassed McGrady career wise?

Skillwise, I think T-Mac was probably better than Durant. But not making it out of the first round even once is freaking inexcusable. Yes, supporting casts are very important, but I'm not saying that T-Mac should have been expected to carry his teams deep into the playoffs year after year...just one playoff win would have gone a long way in justifying that his career wasn't a joke.

In the end, you play to win the game, and T-Mac never won a playoff round even once. Durant's individual accomplishments will be about equal to McGrady's, but his team accomplishments already greatly surpass anything T-Mac has ever done.
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Old 05-16-2011, 09:09 PM   #32
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Can't believe the Magic traded him for Stevie Franchise

you do realize that TMac blatantly quit on them don't you?

dude ended up being nothing more than a cancerous waste of talent.
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Old 05-16-2011, 09:11 PM   #33
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Default Re: At 22, has Durant surpassed McGrady career wise?

TMac typically performed well in the playoffs.
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Old 05-16-2011, 09:15 PM   #34
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Skillwise, I think T-Mac was probably better than Durant. But not making it out of the first round even once is freaking inexcusable. Yes, supporting casts are very important, but I'm not saying that T-Mac should have been expected to carry his teams deep into the playoffs year after year...just one playoff win would have gone a long way in justifying that his career wasn't a joke.

In the end, you play to win the game, and T-Mac never won a playoff round even once. Durant's individual accomplishments will be about equal to McGrady's, but his team accomplishments already greatly surpass anything T-Mac has ever done.

When Durant plays on the talent level of teams Tmac has? Then call me about not getting out the first round. Otherwise? Shhhhh
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Old 05-16-2011, 09:20 PM   #35
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Default Re: At 22, has Durant surpassed McGrady career wise?

Yup!

But prime T-Mac is more exciting to watch than Durant.
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Old 05-16-2011, 09:22 PM   #36
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When Durant plays on the talent level of teams Tmac has? Then call me about not getting out the first round. Otherwise? Shhhhh

I wouldn't really call the OKC Thunder a stacked All-Star team.

Vince Carter or Yao Ming > Westbrook.
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Old 05-16-2011, 09:23 PM   #37
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I think so

At 22 Durant has

finished 2nd in the MVP
2X all NBA 1st team(youngest ever)
2X NBA scoring champion(youngest ever)
Rookie of the Year
Made the WCF's in his 2nd year
Career averages 25.6/6.3/2.8 46.2 FG%

At 31 McGrady has
Finished 3rd in the MVP
2X all NBA 1st team
2X NBA scoring champion
Never made it out of the first round
Career averages 20.4/5.8/4.6 43.5 FG%

uh... this is this 4th season.
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Old 05-16-2011, 09:25 PM   #38
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uh... this is this 4th season.
I believe he meant his 2nd season in the playoffs. He should definitely re-word it better though.
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Old 05-16-2011, 09:28 PM   #39
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I wouldn't really call the OKC Thunder a stacked All-Star team.

Vince Carter or Yao Ming > Westbrook.
Overall TMac's teammates have been a joke outside of Yao when he was in Houston, and he had no one in Orlando

Yao Ming being better than Westbrook is arguable in my opinion, and even if Yao is better the difference between him and Westbrook is not much and then you compare the rest of their roster and you will see why OKC is a much better team. Look at the teams, not 2 players
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Old 05-16-2011, 09:29 PM   #40
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Tmac = Softest player ever in NBA history

No. Wince and Amare are much softer.
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Old 05-16-2011, 09:39 PM   #41
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I wouldn't really call the OKC Thunder a stacked All-Star team.

I would call OKC a more solid team than Tmac has ever had in Orlando.

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Tmac emerged when he signed with Orlando. Not sure why Vince is listed.

Mike Miller, P.Garrity, D.Armstrong, T.Hudson, washed up Ho Grant, Monty Williams, Steven Hunter, D.Gooden, Shawn Kemp, Giricek, J.Vaughn, Declerq, Tyronn Lue (actually was a starter), Bogans.

Come on man. Stop it.

He fled to Orlando and tried to get Grant Hill AND Tim Duncan onboard. Duncan decided to remain a Spur. Grant Hill came and we know how his story in Orlando went. A HEALTHY Grant Hill and if Orlando didnt get out the first rounds? You have a point. But in reality Grant wasnt healthy. And he was a HUGE piece to lose. In fact he was coming off a great season. Tmac took that oppurtunity and exploded, emerged similar to how Derrick Rose did this season.

Now he has some talent in Houston.

Also Durant first season in the playoffs? Ousted. Durant second season he got past first round playing the Denver Nuggets. The teams Tmac played on in Houston would have got past them as well. But thats neither here nor there now is it? Guess I cant go there.
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Old 05-16-2011, 09:42 PM   #42
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Default Re: At 22, has Durant surpassed McGrady career wise?

No, and not hating on Durant.

Give him few more seasons. Yeah, he got out the 1st round, bu McGrady has never played with a team like the Thunder. Switch McGrady on the Thunder and Durant on the 02 Magic and theh come talk too me.

KD's PG is Westbrook, McGrady's was Daryl Armstrong.
KD's bigs are Perkins and Ubacka (don't know ho to spell his name) McGradys were Pat Garrity and fat Shawn Kemp.
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Old 05-16-2011, 09:42 PM   #43
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Default Re: At 22, has Durant surpassed McGrady career wise?

Prime T-Mac was amazing.
Durant has a better jump shot, better at getting to the line as well as hitting them, better range overall. Durant is a better rebounder. Durant is taller, lankier, and a better pure scorer.
T-Mac was a way better playmaker/passer, and had more creative ways to score, possibly better dunks.
Neither are elite defenders.
Not yet, maybe until KD wins something like an MVP. He will need to accumulate more stats.

On a sidenote, T-Mac did get out of the first round. In 2009, the year they met the Lakers. Tracy Mcgrady was still on that Rockets roster, so technically he still made it to the 2nd round.
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Old 05-16-2011, 09:46 PM   #44
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Default Re: At 22, has Durant surpassed McGrady career wise?

On the other hand, injuries have killed T-Mac's career, it's so sad.
As well as his only great teammates, Grant Hill and Yao.
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Old 05-16-2011, 11:36 PM   #45
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Mcgrady had his chance and failed. He never recovered from the 40 point ass whooping the mavs gave him
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