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Old 04-07-2011, 02:32 AM   #16
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And once again, not a decent CENTER on the horizon...

The NBA center is a dead position, with no revival in the near future.
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Old 04-07-2011, 02:33 AM   #17
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This could be the WORST draft in NBA history.

Yeah, it doesn't help that players are returning for next year due to a potential lockout.
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Old 04-07-2011, 02:36 AM   #18
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And once again, not a decent CENTER on the horizon...

Actually next years draft with Fab Melo, and Andre Drummond is one of the best center drafts in a long time.
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Old 04-07-2011, 02:38 AM   #19
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Pre injury Kyrie Irving really impresesd me. If you guys are just basing his talents on what you saw during the NCAA tourney then you guys are misjudged but I will still admit he his being overated.
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Old 04-07-2011, 02:38 AM   #20
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Brandon Knight brothers. Brandon Knight.
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Old 04-07-2011, 02:46 AM   #21
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Actually next years draft with Fab Melo, and Andre Drummond is one of the best center drafts in a long time.

You're kidding right?

Drummond is 6-10 and averaged 15-9 in his junior year of HS. Melo averaged 2.3 ppg and 1.9 rpg in his freshman year in college.

If that is what is on the horizon, Dwight is going to be a 30-20 guy over the next 10 years of his career...
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Old 04-07-2011, 02:49 AM   #22
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A better centre mention would have been Jonas Valanciunas, Enes Kanter, Donatas Motiejunas, or Bismack Biyombo. even Lucas Nogueira.
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Old 04-07-2011, 02:49 AM   #23
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A better centre mention would have been Jonas Valanciunas, Enes Kanter, Donatas Motiejunas, or Bismack Biyombo. even Lucas Nogueira.

Never heard of any of them, and I doubt I ever will.
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Old 04-07-2011, 02:52 AM   #24
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What is really tragic is that Andrew Bynum, a player who can barely dunk, and has about a 5ft. range, is one of the better centers in the NBA today.

The center position in the NBA has become a joke.
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Old 04-07-2011, 02:57 AM   #25
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What is really tragic is that Andrew Bynum, a player who can barely dunk, and has about a 5ft. range, is one of the better centers in the NBA today.

The center position in the NBA has become a joke.
Blame the current rules that benefit the guards, not the players. We've actually had very good prospects likes of Oden and Bynum who had superstar potential if it weren't for injuries. Nonetheless current Bynum is still a very solid player.
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Old 04-07-2011, 03:02 AM   #26
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Blame the current rules that benefit the guards, not the players. We've actually had very good prospects likes of Oden and Bynum who had superstar potential if it weren't for injuries. Nonetheless current Bynum is still a very solid player.

I'm a Laker fan, but when I watch him play...he can barely jump, and he has no range. And yet, the center position is so awful, that he is probably among the top-5 in the league. I HONESTLY believe that he would have been in the BOTTOM tier of NBA centers in the early 70's. Lanier, Cowens, Unseld, Reed, Bellamy, Thurmond, Gimore, McAdoo, Hayes, Kareem, and Wilt...ALL either better, or MUCH better. And Walton was already better, in college, than Bynum has been in the pros.
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Old 04-07-2011, 03:55 AM   #27
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I can see the Raptors winning the lottery for second time in 5 years.

Kyrie Irving playing alongside Andrea Bargnani, DeMar DeRozan and Ed Davis they would have a good foundation for the future.
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Old 04-07-2011, 04:08 AM   #28
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You're kidding right?

Drummond is 6-10 and averaged 15-9 in his junior year of HS. Melo averaged 2.3 ppg and 1.9 rpg in his freshman year in college.

If that is what is on the horizon, Dwight is going to be a 30-20 guy over the next 10 years of his career...

Fab Melo will have a great 2nd year. You will see. And the age of needing to be 7 foot and be a dominant centre is long gone.

Drummond is an athletic freak, and if he bulks up, could be a great center. And you are seriously putting way too much emphasis on stats. Stop being so ignorant, Drummond is lottery bound.

And Melo did not get many minutes and will start getting more in his later years.
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Old 04-07-2011, 04:30 AM   #29
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N*gga, I'm a prophet with this sh*t. Go ask about me. I'm never wrong.

you were wrong about both derrick rose and kevin durant...

after seeing your op, i'm concluding kyrie irving is a good bet
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Old 04-07-2011, 04:57 AM   #30
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He's easily the best half-Australian prospect in this year's draft.
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