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Old 04-28-2013, 05:21 PM   #3511
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That would be interesting. I honestly wouldn't know who to pick in that matchup. I can't see Jones taking him down much (or at all?) and Cain has the power in the standup. It depends on if he can get close to him consistently.
hmm... it seems pretty clear to me based on what we know here and now:

cain would likely bull rush and lock up jones to prevent the dude's killing attack at range. but cain would be a lot heavier, stronger and faster than sonnen was. no flipping cain to the ground in that matchup. it would be a very interesting fight with jones ability to sneak-attack elbows, but i think cain would wear him down and break him in the end.

not to mention, jones is going to fall apart trying to throw his long, skinny frame in to the HW division. he can add all the muscle he wants, but that's not going to fix the problem nor make his gas tank any bigger.

can you imagine jones doing a title eliminator versus someone like hunt, carwin, nelson, etc...? he thought he had trouble with broken hands and toes before...??
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Old 04-28-2013, 05:22 PM   #3512
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Are they still going with Machida as the #1 contender? I honestly have no idea what LHW I'd wanna see Jones fight next (that would be a legit challenge for him). Unless Cormier is ready to come down...

I say Machida rematch, Silva, or just move up. It seems like Jones is going to move up soon if those two don't happen, so he might as well fight Cormier @ heavy as his first fight at that weight.
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Old 04-28-2013, 05:33 PM   #3513
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I say Machida rematch, Silva, or just move up. It seems like Jones is going to move up soon if those two don't happen, so he might as well fight Cormier @ heavy as his first fight at that weight.

Right. Here's UFC's top 10 ranking

1 Lyoto Machida
2 Alexander Gustafsson
3 Dan Henderson
4 Glover Teixeira
5 Antonio Rogerio Nogueira
6 Rashad Evans
7 Mauricio Rua
8 Phil Davis
9 Gegard Mousasi
10 Ryan Bader

The only one that would even be interesting is Gustafsson and that's strictly because of the similary reach/frame. Skillwise Jones rips him apart. There's really nothing at all left at 205 for Jones and I really don't see anyone on the horizon that will be able to challenge him at all. This might be the first time ever that UFC has to take the belt off someone for being so good they killed the division
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Old 04-28-2013, 06:46 PM   #3514
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for all you sonnen-haters:

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You know what? When I get in there, I just want to know who's better," Sonnen said. "I just want to feel these other guys. I want to see what the hype's about. If they would have called the match [in his favor because of Jones' broken toe], I wouldn't have had any illusions. I knew in those first five minutes who the better fighter was.

"I'm sure it would have gone to a rematch and we'd have had to do that again, because it would only have been right to Jon. But I got my questions answered tonight."

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"I've had a lot of fights, and they haven't all gone my way," Sonnen said. "But I've only been beaten up twice and that was No. 2. And he beat me at my own game. It's frustrating and it's tough. That's it.

"I was [surprised by him]. I'll have to watch the replay to see what he did. He was on my leg before I knew it. I don't know how he set it up, if he threw a punch. I don't know what happened. He was just in on my leg. I've been in that spot all my life, and I haven't fallen down like that. I got up, and he did it again. I got up and he did it again. I don't think I've been taken down three times in my career, and he took me down three times in one round."


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Old 04-28-2013, 07:12 PM   #3515
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Right. Here's UFC's top 10 ranking

1 Lyoto Machida
2 Alexander Gustafsson
3 Dan Henderson
4 Glover Teixeira
5 Antonio Rogerio Nogueira
6 Rashad Evans
7 Mauricio Rua
8 Phil Davis
9 Gegard Mousasi
10 Ryan Bader

The only one that would even be interesting is Gustafsson and that's strictly because of the similary reach/frame. Skillwise Jones rips him apart. There's really nothing at all left at 205 for Jones and I really don't see anyone on the horizon that will be able to challenge him at all. This might be the first time ever that UFC has to take the belt off someone for being so good they killed the division

Used to be my favorite division but as you just said, Jones just killed the division completely. No one is even anywhere close to his..

As a swede I would love to see Gustafsson get a shot but Jones is just so much better that it's not even funny.

Jones fight against Sonnen was never even the a little interesting, it's was like a lamb going at it with a lion.
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Old 04-28-2013, 07:19 PM   #3516
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Used to be my favorite division but as you just said, Jones just killed the division completely. No one is even anywhere close to his..

As a swede I would love to see Gustafsson get a shot but Jones is just so much better that it's not even funny.

Jones fight against Sonnen was never even the a little interesting, it's was like a lamb going at it with a lion.

And Jones is a unique situation because he's so damn young. St Pierre, there's people who have a chance against him (I'm damn near a GSP stan and even I think Hendricks might be the one to take it) and either way he says he's only gonna do 2-3 more fights then hang it up. Silva is untouchable at 185, but he's getting up there in age and says he'll be gone after a few more fights. But Jon is 25 YEARS OLD. The fact that he's already cleared his division out and still has a good 10 years left in his career is just unfair lol.
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Old 04-28-2013, 07:26 PM   #3517
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I watched the fight last night (Balls Channel). Jones is a F*cking beast. I love to see Jones fight Silva @ Catchweight.
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Old 04-28-2013, 07:32 PM   #3518
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I watched the fight last night (Balls Channel). Jones is a F*cking beast. I love to see Jones fight Silva @ Catchweight.

Silva called Dana White last night after Jones's victory asking for a fight. Saw it on yahoo.
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Old 04-28-2013, 08:04 PM   #3519
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Who do you think wins? Jon Jones vs. Prime Tito Ortiz

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Old 04-28-2013, 08:05 PM   #3520
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Who do you think wins? Jon Jones vs. Prime Tito Ortiz

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jones wins by destruction
tito ortiz on life support following fight
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Old 04-28-2013, 08:05 PM   #3521
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Who do you think wins? Jon Jones vs. Prime Tito Ortiz

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Jon Jones, but only because Tito will hurt his back and crack his skull before the fight.
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Old 04-28-2013, 08:58 PM   #3522
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Jon Jones, but only because Tito will hurt his back and crack his skull before the fight.

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Old 04-28-2013, 11:54 PM   #3523
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Jones has asked for Gustaffson next. Says the only thing he still has to prove at light heavyweight is that he wins because of skill and not just because of his size/reach, so he wants to fight someone who's taller and has a similar reach. No interest in a Machida rematch apparently
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Old 04-29-2013, 05:37 AM   #3524
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I'm a huge Tito can but other than cardio I can't think of a single advantage any version of Tito has on bones
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Old 04-29-2013, 07:30 AM   #3525
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Jones has asked for Gustaffson next. Says the only thing he still has to prove at light heavyweight is that he wins because of skill and not just because of his size/reach, so he wants to fight someone who's taller and has a similar reach. No interest in a Machida rematch apparently

I'm not that interested in seeing him beat Machida again either. I'd rather see him against Gustafsson, Teixeira or Mousasi, but since he says he's looking at superfights/HW fights after his next defense, then Gus makes the most sense.
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