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Old 03-18-2011, 02:49 AM   #31
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A lot of people thought the Lakers would sweep the Pistons. It's crazy that the Lakers were a miracle shot away from being swept themselves.

yeah i know, thats why i think this is the biggest nba upset

if this didnt go in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDWru_YjLLg its a sweep
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Old 03-18-2011, 02:49 AM   #32
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Pistons in a way created the new Kobe/bynum/gasol lakers


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Old 03-18-2011, 02:50 AM   #33
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shaq shot 60% in that series, he was owning ben wallace

No one could do anything on offense for the Lakers except Shaq.
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Old 03-18-2011, 02:52 AM   #34
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No one could do anything on offense for the Lakers except Shaq.


because larry brown admited after the series that they would let shaq get his and focus on everyone else... ( i.e doubling kobe... locking down the perimeter )

shaq can only score so many points.

the plan worked because of how thin the lakers roster was...
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Old 03-18-2011, 02:55 AM   #35
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I don't see how people underrated Detroit so much. They beat the Pacers without HCA and the Pacers had the best record in the league.
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Old 03-18-2011, 02:56 AM   #36
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1996-97 Shaquille O'neal 19.4 FGA's
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2003-04 Kobe Bryant 18.1 FGA's ( NBA FINALS )



sure shaq was the more efficient player. but he wasnt the 1st option


and in a way .... when kobe was the main go to guy. the lakers had more success...

YET .. Shaq led the team in wins hares still and was clearly the better player and #1 option through all of their playoff runs and was the one averaging 36/15 on 60% in the finals and setting finals records in blocks and scoring while kobe was struggling to shoot over 40%?

lakers had more success in 04 when kobe had more FGA than shaq for the first time ever in a finals series? lakers had more success in 03 when kobe took over 700 more shots than Shaq int he playoffs?

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Old 03-18-2011, 02:58 AM   #37
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I don't see how people underrated Detroit so much. They beat the Pacers without HCA and the Pacers had the best record in the league.

its not because of how low the pistons were rated

its because of how high the lakers were rated

Kobe and shaq alone were enough to win 3 straight

then you throw in malone and payton and they were being talked about as the best team ever put together


but sadly malone got injured, payton stopped playing good, kobe was locked up with double teams, and the pistons let shaq do whatever he wanted while shutting down every role player...

thats the story
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Old 03-18-2011, 02:58 AM   #38
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YET .. Shaq led the team in wins hares still and was clearly the better player and #1 option through all of their playoff runs

lakers had more success in 04 when kobe had more FGA than shaq for the first time ever in a finals series? lakers had more success in 03 when kobe took over 700 more shots than Shaq int he playoffs?

theres a difference between #1 option and teams most efficient player


#1 option means ( who gets the most shots )


sorry bro... you lose
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Old 03-18-2011, 02:59 AM   #39
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the real finals wasnt LA vs pacers/sixers/nets

anyone who watched ball in the early 00's knew the real finals was the WCF and against teams like sanantonio and sacramento

kobe was the mvp of those REAL finals

You dont know what you are talking about. You are like no brain man who thinks that everybody elses are same like him. But guess what, we have brain, and you lover Bryant was not better than Shaq in any of these series before finals, let alone vs Philly or Nets.

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#1 option means ( who gets the most shots )

This means, if you are really 1st option and you get most of shots, you should hit most of shots. But if you are not first option, and you get most shots, but make 35-40% of them then you are called CHUCKER and BALLHOGER.

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You dont know what you are talking about. You are like no brain man who thinks that everybody elses are same like him. But guess what, we have brain, and you lover Bryant was not better than Shaq in any of these series before finals, let alone vs Philly or Nets.

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Old 03-18-2011, 03:07 AM   #41
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cmonn, you take me for serious? please dont cause i'm just ignorant stupid biatch who don't know anything about bball, and have no life so I must come on forums and try to act like A MAN. yea I suck
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Old 03-18-2011, 03:07 AM   #42
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how about this....

ben wallace was able to defend shaq 1 on 1.... leaving kobe to be doubled and tripled into bad forced shots since malone was injured and payton was shooting even worse

and after that the team sucked

Yeah if giving up 26.6 PPG on 63.1 FG% and 10.8 RPG in the series is being able to defend Shaq

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Old 03-18-2011, 03:08 AM   #43
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1996-97 Shaquille O'neal 19.4 FGA's
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1998-99 Shaquille O'neal 18.1
1999-00 Shaquille O'neal 21.1 ( NBA CHAMPIONSHIP )
2000-01 Kobe Bryant 22.2 FGA's ( NBA CHAMPIONSHIP )
2001-02 Kobe Bryant 20.0 FGA's ( NBA CHAMPIONSHIP )
2002-03 Kobe Bryant 23.5 FGA's
2003-04 Kobe Bryant 18.1 FGA's ( NBA FINALS )



sure shaq was the more efficient player. but he wasnt the 1st option


and in a way .... when kobe was the main go to guy. the lakers had more success...

This crap doesn't work on me. Does this tell us how many times the ball went into Shaq and he was doubled? No.

I'll trust the coach on who the first option was, as well as my eyes.
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Old 03-18-2011, 03:08 AM   #44
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shaq shot 60% in that series, he was owning ben wallace

wallace - 13.6 rpg
shaq - 10.8 rpg

plus who cares that shaq shot 60%, do you even watch basketball, look at the shots he takes dunks, layups and 3 foot hook shots, the problem was not offensivly tho
he was outplayed defensivly by far
billups owned payton, and malone was banged up
chemisrty problems
the team was a mess, not all kobes fault
but i give credit to detroit they played much better and deserved the title
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Damn...griff is getting really good at his trolling. Like a young, undeveloped TheLogo raised by a crack-momma.
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