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Old 03-18-2011, 07:38 AM   #16
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it's looking like Bulls will meet Orlando in the 2nd round instead of the Heat. We're going against the Celtics god help us.
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Old 03-18-2011, 07:50 AM   #17
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it's looking like Bulls will meet Orlando in the 2nd round instead of the Heat. We're going against the Celtics god help us.
The season isn't over. Maybe they can catch Boston, not really, but one can hope, right?
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Old 03-18-2011, 07:55 AM   #18
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The season isn't over. Maybe they can catch Boston, not really, but one can hope, right?
the odds are heavily against it. and it's also looking unlikely Celts will regain the 1 position. the top 4 in the east, IMO, are already locked on and will not change places anymore. it's the bottom 4 that's still fluid.

believe me, we do not want the Celts in the 2nd round. The Bulls would still be favorable because they would still be 2nd round playoff virgins. aside from Boozer, who among the Bulls players have gone to the 2nd round? they're deer in the headlights material IMO.
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If the Heat are smart, they'd rest their top 3 giving them limited minutes (about 25 to 30) from here on out. They should do as the Celtics do by resting their stars as they're doing this year, and as they did last year.

The Heat would be better off at the 4th seed anyway because the Heat match up a lot better against the Bulls. Rose is 45% of their offense and the Heat have the player who can shut him down. When they played Wade on Rose in spots (about 10% of the time), they shut the bulls offense down and gained nice leads on them.

Shut down Rose and you shut down the Bulls because they have no one else who can handle the ball and create. And they simply do not have good and reliable offensive options on that team. Period.

The Bulls can easily be shut down with good game planning when teams prepare for them in a series (as the Cavs teams were easy to prepare for when the playoffs rolled around). And the Heat have the one player who can do it better than anybody.

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POSS PTS/POSS FG% AGST TO% AGST
D. Wade 130 0.71 PTS 28.3 FG% 9.2 TO%
T. Sefolosha 248 0.79 PTS 36.8 FG% 11.3 TO%
G. Hill 193 0.83 PTS 41.1 FG% 8.8 TO%
R. Artest 186 0.66 PTS 29.6 FG% 12.4 TO%
L. James 146 0.60 PTS 30.8 FG% 17.8 TO%
K. Bryant 161 0.75 PTS 33.6 FG% 11.8 TO%
K. Hinrich 160 0.87 PTS 41.4 FG% 9.4 TO%
B. Rush 160 0.83 PTS 39.3 FG% 13.1 TO%
A. Afflalo 155 0.89 PTS 36.2 FG% 11.6 TO%
S. Battier 151 0.82 PTS 36.2 FG% 6.0 TO%
L. M-a Moute 139 0.78 PTS 38.2 FG% 13.7 TO%
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Old 03-18-2011, 08:13 AM   #20
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If the Heat are smart, they'd rest their top 3 giving them limited minutes (about 25 to 30) from here on out. They should do as the Celtics do by resting their stars as they're doing this year, and as they did last year.

The Heat would be better off at the 4th seed anyway because the Heat match up a lot better against the Bulls. Rose is 45% of their offense and the Heat have the player who can shut him down. When they played Wade on Rose in spots (about 10% of the time), they shut the bulls offense down and gained nice leads on them.

Shut down Rose and you shut down the Bulls because they have no one else who can handle the ball and create. And they simply do not have good and reliable offensive options on that team. Period.

The Bulls can easily be shut down with good game planning when teams prepare for them in a series (as the Cavs teams were easy to prepare for when the playoffs rolled around). And the Heat have the one player who can do it better than anybody.

ISOLATION
POSS PTS/POSS FG% AGST TO% AGST
D. Wade 130 0.71 PTS 28.3 FG% 9.2 TO%
T. Sefolosha 248 0.79 PTS 36.8 FG% 11.3 TO%
G. Hill 193 0.83 PTS 41.1 FG% 8.8 TO%
R. Artest 186 0.66 PTS 29.6 FG% 12.4 TO%
L. James 146 0.60 PTS 30.8 FG% 17.8 TO%
K. Bryant 161 0.75 PTS 33.6 FG% 11.8 TO%
K. Hinrich 160 0.87 PTS 41.4 FG% 9.4 TO%
B. Rush 160 0.83 PTS 39.3 FG% 13.1 TO%
A. Afflalo 155 0.89 PTS 36.2 FG% 11.6 TO%
S. Battier 151 0.82 PTS 36.2 FG% 6.0 TO%
L. M-a Moute 139 0.78 PTS 38.2 FG% 13.7 TO%
Then the Bulls would employ the things I said and still win the game.
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Old 03-18-2011, 08:15 AM   #21
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the odds are heavily against it. and it's also looking unlikely Celts will regain the 1 position. the top 4 in the east, IMO, are already locked on and will not change places anymore. it's the bottom 4 that's still fluid.

believe me, we do not want the Celts in the 2nd round. The Bulls would still be favorable because they would still be 2nd round playoff virgins. aside from Boozer, who among the Bulls players have gone to the 2nd round? they're deer in the headlights material IMO.
This team would be expecting to get past the second round, so they will not be scared. This Heat team hasnt done anything in playoffs together either, so they would have some nerves too.
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Resting the Heat starters would be a brilliant tactic. Because they can grab that 4th seed to face the easier opponent in the 2nd round.

But it will also allow Miami's bench to get more minutes until the end of the season to get into the groove. Get them used to playing games.

Finally, it will be better to face an old celtics team in the 3rd round than the 2nd round. Because they're an older team and may be worn out by that time after 2 series. Last year the Celtics didn't look to have the same energy later on in the playoffs (compared to years before). They're a year older now so we can expect more of the same, or even worse (for them).

This would be a brilliant tactic by Miami because they'll surely dispose of the Bulls in the 2nd round and get to face the Celtics at more of an advantage later on. Those old legs on the Cs won't be the same in the 3rd round compared to the 2nd round.

all the while giving the whole team (besides the big 3) a lot of minutes at the end of the season to feel good about themselves getting their groove on right before the playoffs start.. so they're going in ready with more game experience with each other.

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what if the Celts are purposefully losing that 1 seed so they can match up with the Heat? it's crazy, but maybe once they realized they'll never catch the Spurs, maybe it was enough for them to just know they'll still be ahead of the Lakers.
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This team would be expecting to get past the second round, so they will not be scared. This Heat team hasnt done anything in playoffs together either, so they would have some nerves too.
but almost all the players of the heat have gone deep in the playoffs. Lebron, Wade, Bibby, Ilgauskas, Haslem. damn even Dampier has reached the Finals. you can't say that about Rose, Noah, Deng, Gibson or Asik.
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what if the Celts are purposefully losing that 1 seed so they can match up with the Heat?.

Even more reason to do what I suggested.

Get that 4th seed. It's a much easier road for us anyway.

And we beat the Celtics at their own game because those old legs won't be nearly as fresh in the 3rd round.

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blah blah blah all this talk about miami match up better vs bulls

the bulls are hands down the best defensive team in the league period! you don't beat the bulls by shutting rose down, i used to be the biggest critic of rose but he has proven to me to be a legit superstar and one of those players you can't stop only contain, believe me rose will get his no matter who he's playing.

back to my point you can't beat the bulls tryin to shut down rose, you beat em by breaking that defense, to beat that defense you need a solid pg that can set your offense up and make the right reads etc. and simply put miami don't have that, as a bulls fan i am not worried about miami at all, but the celtics have me worried

the bulls are in a great position though
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blah blah blah all this talk about miami match up better vs bulls

the bulls are hands down the best defensive team in the league period! you don't beat the bulls by shutting rose down, i used to be the biggest critic of rose but he has proven to me to be a legit superstar and one of those players you can't stop only contain, believe me rose will get his no matter who he's playing.

back to my point you can't beat the bulls tryin to shut down rose, you beat em by breaking that defense, to beat that defense you need a solid pg that can set your offense up and make the right reads etc. and simply put miami don't have that, as a bulls fan i am not worried about miami at all, but the celtics have me worried

the bulls are in a great position though

If miami was any good against the bulls they would have atleast beaten them once. Its going to be a disaster for miami.
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Yeah becuse they've lost the last three times they played right?

So Miami would win the first two games in the finals against Lakers if they meet because they did so in the regular season right ?

You seem to think just because a team "owns" a team in the regular season the same thing will happen in the post season.


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If miami was any good against the bulls they would have atleast beaten them once. Its going to be a disaster for miami.

If Bulls pose any big threat to the Heat they sure didn't prove it in either of those victories.The first two games were in Chicago and one without Lebron and Bosh out for the 4th quarter. They still barely beat the Heat.

I know a win is a win but you Bull fans act like you blew the Heat out every game.Those games could've went either way.Especially the last one.
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So Miami would win the first two games in the finals against Lakers if they meet because they did so in the regular season right ?

You seem to think just because a team "owns" a team in the regular season the same thing will happen in the post season.




If Bulls pose any big threat to the Heat they sure didn't prove it in either of those victories.The first two games were in Chicago and one without Lebron and Bosh out for the 4th quarter. They still barely beat the Heat.

I know a win is a win but you Bull fans act like you blew the Heat out every game.Those games could've went either way.Especially the last one.
Must suck to be 0-3 to the Bulls and looking up at them in the standings huh?

How is that 72 win season going? Or how is that lebron triple double season going?
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If the Heat are smart, they'd rest their top 3 giving them limited minutes (about 25 to 30) from here on out. They should do as the Celtics do by resting their stars as they're doing this year, and as they did last year.

The Heat would be better off at the 4th seed anyway because the Heat match up a lot better against the Bulls. Rose is 45% of their offense and the Heat have the player who can shut him down. When they played Wade on Rose in spots (about 10% of the time), they shut the bulls offense down and gained nice leads on them.

Shut down Rose and you shut down the Bulls because they have no one else who can handle the ball and create. And they simply do not have good and reliable offensive options on that team. Period.

The Bulls can easily be shut down with good game planning when teams prepare for them in a series (as the Cavs teams were easy to prepare for when the playoffs rolled around). And the Heat have the one player who can do it better than anybody.

ISOLATION
POSS PTS/POSS FG% AGST TO% AGST
D. Wade 130 0.71 PTS 28.3 FG% 9.2 TO%
T. Sefolosha 248 0.79 PTS 36.8 FG% 11.3 TO%
G. Hill 193 0.83 PTS 41.1 FG% 8.8 TO%
R. Artest 186 0.66 PTS 29.6 FG% 12.4 TO%
L. James 146 0.60 PTS 30.8 FG% 17.8 TO%
K. Bryant 161 0.75 PTS 33.6 FG% 11.8 TO%
K. Hinrich 160 0.87 PTS 41.4 FG% 9.4 TO%
B. Rush 160 0.83 PTS 39.3 FG% 13.1 TO%
A. Afflalo 155 0.89 PTS 36.2 FG% 11.6 TO%
S. Battier 151 0.82 PTS 36.2 FG% 6.0 TO%
L. M-a Moute 139 0.78 PTS 38.2 FG% 13.7 TO%
But if you shot down Rose with Wade, he cannot go to the line as easy as he does because he will be tired. That is the why the Heat cannot win against the Bulls team.
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