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Old 06-06-2011, 08:16 PM   #1
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Default Kobe/Shaq 3-peat Lakers in the 4th Quarter

I've been seeing a few people posting that Kobe averaged 9.2 points in the 4th on 62% while Shaq averaged something like 4.5 points on 25% during the 4th quarters of the playoffs.

I really just find this stat hard to believe, is there any documentation anywhere?
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Old 06-06-2011, 08:20 PM   #2
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I've been seeing a few people posting that Kobe averaged 9.2 points in the 4th on 62% while Shaq averaged something like 4.5 points on 25% during the 4th quarters of the playoffs.

I really just find this stat hard to believe, is there any documentation anywhere?

Thats sounds made up, but I have no idea.

I do know that Kobe has never come close to that over 03 to present.
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Old 06-06-2011, 08:26 PM   #3
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Default Re: Kobe/Shaq 3-peat Lakers in the 4th Quarter

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I've been seeing a few people posting that Kobe averaged 9.2 points in the 4th on 62% while Shaq averaged something like 4.5 points on 25% during the 4th quarters of the playoffs.

I really just find this stat hard to believe, is there any documentation anywhere?


Sounds completely false, especially Shaq's shooting percentage. I could imagine his ppg volume dropping somewhat in the 4th if they took him out or didn't go to him in the post as much due to hack-a-Shaq, but him shooting 25% in the 4th over the entire playoffs (is this supposed to be for multiple years?) sounds VERY unlikely.

Maybe it was for one series or something...
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Old 06-06-2011, 08:27 PM   #4
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Default Re: Kobe/Shaq 3-peat Lakers in the 4th Quarter

Maybe they got it reversed
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Old 06-06-2011, 08:30 PM   #5
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Default Re: Kobe/Shaq 3-peat Lakers in the 4th Quarter

That was only in the 2002 run and over two series. I made a thread about it a while ago to highlight Kobe's clutch play (especially against Spurs) that year. Shaq was going through some nagging injuries at the time though.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=178768

I don't know what they were like for other years but fourth quarter numbers probably favor Shaq a lot in '00, and maybe marginally in '01.
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Old 06-06-2011, 08:57 PM   #6
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Default Re: Kobe/Shaq 3-peat Lakers in the 4th Quarter

This is the best STAT to describe the 3-Peat...

Playoff PER on title runs

1996 Bulls
Jordan---------26.7
Pippen---------19.4

1998 Bulls
Jordan---------28.1
Pippen---------19.5

2000 Lakers
Shaq-----------30.5
Kobe------------19.3

2001 Lakers
Shaq------------29.7
Kobe------------23.8

2002 Lakers
Shaq------------28.3
Kobe-------------20.5

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Old 06-06-2011, 10:30 PM   #7
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Default Re: Kobe/Shaq 3-peat Lakers in the 4th Quarter

Shaq would never chuck at 25%...
also hard to believe Kobe averaging 9 ppg at 60% in the 4th... what a BS
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Old 06-06-2011, 10:37 PM   #8
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Default Re: Kobe/Shaq 3-peat Lakers in the 4th Quarter

He wasn't doing as much offensively in the 4th quarters in 2002. In the 2001 run, the 4th quarter numbers are kind of insignificant due to all of the blowouts, no idea what their numbers are for that run. But in 2000, Shaq had great 4th quarter numbers. He averaged an efficient 11.5 ppg in the 4th quarters in the 2000 finals, iirc and 9+ ppg on great efficiency in the 4th in the WCF vs Portland.
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Old 06-06-2011, 11:31 PM   #9
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Default Re: Kobe/Shaq 3-peat Lakers in the 4th Quarter

Your order of say is wrong

SHAQ and yes Bryant
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Old 06-06-2011, 11:46 PM   #10
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Sure, Shaq was the leader back then. But the point is, Kobe was a vital and integral #2 option in that equation. Kobe was a great uprising superstar, he was just young back then. Those weren't just mere sidekick rings. Apparantly Kobe gets more hate than praise for his contributions in that 3 peat run. Why is everyone trying to discredit what Kobe has done?
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Old 06-07-2011, 12:48 AM   #11
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Default Re: Kobe/Shaq 3-peat Lakers in the 4th Quarter

at AlphaWolf presenting those as the stats for the entire playoffs in many posts.

Here are the other 2 rounds for 2002.

1st round 4th quarters
Shaq- 22 points, 8/15 FG, 6/11 FT
Kobe- 15 points, 5/14 FG, 3/4 FT

Finals 4th quarters
Shaq- 29 points, 6/14 FG, 17/29 FT
Kobe- 33 points, 12/19 FG, 6/9 FT
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Old 06-07-2011, 02:00 AM   #12
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Default Re: Kobe/Shaq 3-peat Lakers in the 4th Quarter

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at AlphaWolf presenting those as the stats for the entire playoffs in many posts.

Here are the other 2 rounds for 2002.

1st round 4th quarters
Shaq- 22 points, 8/15 FG, 6/11 FT
Kobe- 15 points, 5/14 FG, 3/4 FT

Finals 4th quarters
Shaq- 29 points, 6/14 FG, 17/29 FT
Kobe- 33 points, 12/19 FG, 6/9 FT

Thanks! Any way you could find those numbers for '01 and possibly '00 as well?

@ Kobe's 4th quarter numbers in the finals that year.
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Old 06-07-2011, 02:09 AM   #13
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A contributing factor to Shaq's numbers going down in the forth is because he'd get pulled to avoid being sent to the free throw line and then there are the times he wasn't pulled and got sent to the free throw line. As good as he was he was a liability in a close game in the fourth quarter
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