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Old 12-05-2008, 03:56 AM   #46
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Default Re: Charles Barkley says Shaq is best player on Suns

If Nash has 2 MVPs

Then Ewing, Isiah, Payton, Kidd and Stockton deserved 4-6 Each

Another Reason why this NBA is a Dissgrace.... Overrating Great Players Over LEGENDS

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Old 12-05-2008, 04:43 AM   #47
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Default Re: Charles Barkley says Shaq is best player on Suns

I don't think it's a stupid comment... Look at the suns, they've played 3 games without Shaq and lost all 3, granted they were without Nash for two of them they still lost.

When the suns pulled the trigger on the trade for Shaq last year they committed to the half court set and when they run the ball through Shaq early in the game they do very well. Amare can't be that man who gets other teams in early foul trouble as well as cleaning the glass as efficiently as Shaq does.

The key to the suns is Shaq and when they don't use him and divert to Stat instead they often end up with another L.
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Old 12-05-2008, 06:49 AM   #48
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Default Re: Charles Barkley says Shaq is best player on Suns

Who cares what this gus said.
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Old 12-05-2008, 07:34 AM   #49
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If all in their prime, he was.
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Old 12-05-2008, 11:15 AM   #50
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Even Barkley had the balls to call it like it is: the Suns players were system players. Nash, Amare, Marion, all seem better because of the numbers, but that came as a result of the system. Look at what is going on in NY. Nash played outside of Phoenix, and he wasn't that great at all. He was a "good" PG, a little above average, but by no means a top 3 player or MVP level player.

This is really true. I knew the system made them look better, but I didn't realize it was ALOT BETTER. Combine that with whats going on in NY, and I think Mike D'Antoni is a much better coach then I originally thought. The lack in defense is still a big flaw of his. But seriously, those three were definitely great players before without D'Antoni, but nowhere near as great as he made them. Nash went from a borderline all-star to a 2-time MVP (although undeserved, he definitely improved alot and deserved consideration). Looking at Amare now, its hard to believe he was on an All-NBA first team and has actually been considered better then the likes of Dirk, Bosh, and KG. And Marion looks nowhere near $17 million, in fact he doesn't even seem like he exists anymore.
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Old 12-05-2008, 12:32 PM   #51
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This is really true. I knew the system made them look better, but I didn't realize it was ALOT BETTER. Combine that with whats going on in NY, and I think Mike D'Antoni is a much better coach then I originally thought. The lack in defense is still a big flaw of his. But seriously, those three were definitely great players before without D'Antoni, but nowhere near as great as he made them. Nash went from a borderline all-star to a 2-time MVP (although undeserved, he definitely improved alot and deserved consideration). Looking at Amare now, its hard to believe he was on an All-NBA first team and has actually been considered better then the likes of Dirk, Bosh, and KG. And Marion looks nowhere near $17 million, in fact he doesn't even seem like he exists anymore.


Sir Charles was spot on with this assessment, but calling Shaq the best players on the Suns is ludicrous. I was looking the TV dumbfounded when he said this.
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Old 12-05-2008, 12:40 PM   #52
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Sir Charles was spot on with this assessment, but calling Shaq the best players on the Suns is ludicrous. I was looking the TV dumbfounded when he said this.

Isn't that how most people look at the TV? lol
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