How would we view guys like Dominique and Barkley had they colluded to join...

[Hey Yo]

Of course . He was top 3 at least .

Wade averaged 33 points with %65 TS against Celtics . Lebron just had 26 with %55 TS against Celtics . He was clearly better than Lebron at 2010 .

Miami went down 0-3 in the series with one blowout loss to where Cleveland and Boston traded blowout wins to a 2-2 series tie.

Both series couldn't have been more the opposite when it comes to Boston prioritizing their level of defense played.

[feyki]

Miami went down 0-3 in the series with one blowout loss to where Cleveland and Boston traded blowout wins to a 2-2 series tie.

Both series couldn't have been more the opposite when it comes to Boston prioritizing their level of defense played.

Cavs were more stacked

[jstern]

If they would have won rings, they would be viewed higher on the all time list. Very simple.

[Gileraracer]

Exactly this is the reason why Lebron is not top 10 all time

[miggyme1]

Of course . He was top 3 at least .

Wade averaged 33 points with %65 TS against Celtics . Lebron just had 26 with %55 TS against Celtics . He was clearly better than Lebron at 2010 .

yep better than LeBron yet the heat were a first round exit the year before. you lose

[feyki]

yep better than LeBron yet the heat were a first round exit the year before. you lose

Damn ..

[Wade's Rings]

I wouldn't draw too many parallels given the fact ENTIRE teams change season to season. Then you have injuries to account for, so it can get hairy.

RPM works best within a years frame, and when players have similar minutes/roles played.

FWIW though, he also had a better playoffs in 2010 than the season prior. For a large chunk of the regular-season I actually thought Kobe was better BUT Wade just conserved energy so that he could go all out in the playoffs...and we saw what he did to Boston.

He played less minutes in the '10 Season than the year before and he really turned it up post All-Star Break. Was dominating during our late Season win streak.

[Wade's Rings]

Miami went down 0-3 in the series with one blowout loss to where Cleveland and Boston traded blowout wins to a 2-2 series tie.

Both series couldn't have been more the opposite when it comes to Boston prioritizing their level of defense played.

The Heat were a much worse team. Could you imagine if Wade shot 34% with 6 Turnovers a Game to end that series like Bron did?

[miggyme1]

The Heat were a much worse team. Could you imagine if Wade shot 34% with 6 Turnovers a Game to end that series like Bron did?

??????????????????????? does it matter both teams still lost.....heat in the first round......and cavs in the second right? who cares is wade had of averaged that..hell he played damn well and still only won one damn game. And that heat team wasn't that bad hell they were the 5th seed. played great defense they just lacked scoring

[Hey Yo]

The Heat were a much worse team. Could you imagine if Wade shot 34% with 6 Turnovers a Game to end that series like Bron did?

I never said or implied that both teams were equal. Just stated that the circumstances in both series let Boston play less defense against Miami than against the Cavs.

[dubeta]

I'd still view them more favourably than the Kobe-Dwight-Nash collusion

[Dro]

Just making it specific rankings does not detract that he chased a ring in Houston with Hakeem and Clyde.

How is that ring chasing? MANY players once they get older try to go to a better team and finally win a ring. There is NOTHING wrong with what Barkley did. Its not different than Ray Allen following Lebron everywhere. Its no different than David West leaving all that money on the table and going to the Spurs because he wanted to win. Sure, he's not Barkley's level but its the same thing..

All you dudes do is hate on players that you don't like for whatever reason. I'm not accusing YOU of this, I'm just saying.

If Barkley ring chased, then so did plenty other vets. If he had left Philly in his prime or before he went to Phoenix and tried to play with MJ, or Iverson, whoever, you can MAYBE call that ring chasing, its sill not colluding. Its not like he called up Hakeem and Clyde and was like, hey lets play together. If he did, I'm not aware and its still not the same because ALL of them were past their primes. You guys are reaching.