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Old 10-07-2019, 12:55 PM   #76
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https://www.deseret.com/2019/10/7/20...rs-espn-writer

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Lowe goes on to say, “With Conley and (Bojan) Bogdanovic aboard, Utah should not fall victim to the ‘Twilight Zone’ shooting slumps that torpedoed them in recent playoff defeats. Bump up their shooting, and the Jazz could sniff the top five in points per possession. That two-way balance nudges them a hair above Houston and Denver.”

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Old 10-07-2019, 03:25 PM   #77
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https://www.slcdunk.com/the-downbeat...-power-forward

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Utah Jazz’s Royce O’Neale looks like a starting caliber NBA player

did last year i not the year before. Rather he is a 4 or not remains to be seen though

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To O’Neale’s credit, he’s not going to be the only player asked to face up against Giannis, but he’s one arrow in the Jazz’s quiver to guarding unicorns like the Greek Freak. In order to throw different looks at players like LeBron James, Kawhi Leonard, Giannis, and others, Utah can sub out Royce O’Neale for the bigger Jeff Green. If Utah wants to make those players expend more energy on the offensive end, they can slot Bojan Bogdanovic down to the four spot. They can also throw the pests of all pests, Joe Ingles, at them for another look. Utah’s ready for the challenge, and Royce is the tip of the spear.

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Jeff Green surprised me with how athletic he is. He has incredible body control, shifting and slowing in a very fluid motion. Patient with the ball, seems like a very intelligent player. I think he’ll pick up the system pretty quickly, and he is very effective in transition. I’m excited for lineups where he’s at the 4 with three other big wings – Exum, Mudiay, O’Neale, Green, and Davis on the floor together would be long, athletic, and great in transition (but terrible at shooting).

Finally, Ed Davis is extremely easy to like as a fan. Plays hard, always going after rebounds, physical presence defensively. He has offensive limitations, but if he can learn to make plays as the roll man, we will have 48 minutes of great center play.

Bojan doesn’t strike me as a great option at 4. He’s undersized, and doesn’t seem to have a nose for the ball. Rebounding with Ingles, Conley, Mitchell, Bojan, and Gobert as a closing lineup will potentially be the biggest weak point.

Posted by jrclone on Oct 7, 2019 | 11:46 AM

If Snyder plays Mudiay and Exum together he should be fired. I think Mitchell could step up rebounding and that won't always be the closing lineup I imagine
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Old 10-08-2019, 12:35 AM   #78
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https://www.ksl.com/article/46651566...eseason-opener

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Oni’s stat line didn’t jump off the page (he had 9 points, five rebounds and three assists). But that’s the thing with the rookie, his game shines in a lot of subtle ways. He prides himself on making the right reads, being in the right place and making the right pass — not on jumping out of the gym. So when he does do just that, it can be a little shocking.

take those numbers anytime especially in limited minutes

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With Mitchell, Emmanuel Mudiay and Dante Exum all sitting out, there were some minutes to be had out on the wing, so it's not likely Oni will be asked to be a regular contributor once the season starts. But it was still a good sign for the second rounder out of Yale.

by the end of the season he might. already better than Dante

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Old 10-08-2019, 08:34 AM   #79
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https://thejnotes.com/2019/10/07/uta...r-in-miye-oni/

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It was that performance that put him in-line for a contract and a roster spot despite the fact that he fell to the Jazz in the second-round of the 2019 NBA Draft at pick No. 58. But putting summer numbers aside, the best thing about Oni may be that he looks the part of a legitimate NBA player in spite of his draft position.

the Jazz being cheap may have had more to do with it than anything

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Now, that’s not to say I’m expecting any kind of big-time rookie season from him; the Jazz have so many weapons now with enough of them playing in the backcourt and on the wing that he’s probably going to have a hard time seeing the floor unless injuries strike.

not hard to see him or Brantley being in the mix by the end of the year. Oni looks better than Exum already not that that is saying a whole lot

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And if that description fits the 13th or 14th man on your roster, you’re in a pretty good place as a team.

but if he's the 10th guy as a rookie which he might be it's not such a great place
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Old 10-09-2019, 12:10 AM   #80
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Andy Larsen: Dante Exum and Emmanuel Mudiay will remain out for the Jazz vs MIL tomorrow… no one else on injury report, though. – via Twitter andyblarsen
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Old 10-09-2019, 12:36 AM   #81
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https://www.slcdunk.com/the-downbeat...on-court-debut

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As of right now the Jazz—and Quin Snyder—are being coy about any plans to have the veteran point guard play in Milwaukee saying it’s up to the team’s medical staff. Honestly, there’s not one good reason Mike Conley should play a single game of preseason.

except to get ready for the season

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I know there’s the concern that he may not have the feel of the team out there on the floor against the top NBA squads, but this is Mike Conley we’re talking about. If he played in any other conference but the Western Conference, he’d be an All-Star. He had a superstar type season in Memphis last year, and he can learn quickly. He has been in every type of late game, close game, blowout, physical, and run and gun situation. He is one of the most professional, basketball intelligent players in the NBA. If Utah feels that he’s playing well in practice, don’t unleash him until the season.

superstar season?

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While I don’t think it can hurt to have him play can hurt Utah’s chemistry and familiarity on the floor—it can only help—he’s not in a position like fellow veterans Jeff Green, Bojan Bogdanovic, and Ed Davis where they’re being asked to slot into new roles offensively and defensively.

He's already said his role is different. He will be spotting up more and having the ball in his hands less

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You should not just hold a guy out because he MIGHT get hurt
He might get hurt in literally any action he takes; be it practice or pulling a Carlos Boozer and tripping on a gym bag and breaking his hand.

Load management is a whole other thing; but Conley has literally not played in an NBA game in months, so he should be well rested. Plus, its preseason, 18-20 minutes is about standard for a starter.

Conley should be playing, so says I.


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Old 10-09-2019, 01:53 PM   #82
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https://www.sltrib.com/sports/2019/1...-andy-larsens/

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Nigel Williams-Goss struggled early in the game, seemingly having trouble getting the ball up at times against even NBL competition. But he settled into the game with his passing and especially his shooting, and ended up with 12 points. I’m still not sure what his NBA skill is.

smart, can shoot, has decent length and can play a couple of positions. Best thing is he's not Exum!

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Tony Bradley still looks goofy, off balance, and a beat late on his moves when compared to other NBA centers. And he still puts up crazy numbers, like 18 points and 10 rebounds in only 19 minutes of play. I’m curious how he’ll do against decent competition.

put up a double double off the bench against decent players. still their youngest guy and getting better

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Justin Wright-Foreman had some nice passes, actually, perhaps showing off some improved court vision. This is good!

He looked a lot better but still reminds me too much of Burke to get excited

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Jarrell Brantley didn’t get his chance until late, but he impressed with some very stylish passing himself: a no-look under the basket after an offensive rebound, a left-handed diagonal pass in transition, and a quick swing as the Jazz moved the ball around the arc. He’s so intriguing, but his NBA future probably depends on his ability to either become a lockdown defender or a good shooter, or enough of both.

Was a decent shooter in college and has length so it's not hard to imagine him becoming better. The guy is a player

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Mike Conley mentioned Stanton Kidd as a player who surprised him in OTAs, thanks to his length and defensive presence. Kidd, today, went 3-6 from the field, including 0-3 from 3-point range. If he could shoot 35% from 3, he’d be an NBA player, but I’m not sure he can.

shot over 40 from 3 last year in summer league but sucked this summer

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Kidd is in a battle with William Howard for the 15th spot. Howard did make all three of his threes, playing the entire fourth quarter. He can shoot and playmake, but can he defend at the level the Jazz want? Adelaide was not that test.

supposedly but what if someone else steps up or another player becomes available from another team?

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Team USA’s visit was undoubtedly worthwhile, and they got great competition out of it. But to make an NBL team fly all this way to play an NBA preseason game seems like it would have diminishing returns at this point, after several consecutive years of these games. I vote (and note, I don’t have a vote) we try something else.

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Old 10-09-2019, 02:12 PM   #83
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https://hoopshabit.com/2019/10/08/ut...son-preview/3/

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It’s no question that Mitchell is the best player on the team. He’s been around for the last two years and has led them to the playoffs while being the primary scorer and having teams game plan around him. He still put up more than 20 points per game on a nightly basis and that was with the next best scoring option being Joe Ingles.

there's no doubt he isn't. is he even the 2nd or 3rd best is the question

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Fans just have to hope they avoid the two powerhouses of the West, the Lakers and LA Clippers.

not worried about the Lakers

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Donovan Mitchell and Mike Conley are a dream pairing, and assert themselves as a top-three backcourt in the league. Bojan Bogdanovic and Joe Ingles provide plenty of threes and defense. Rudy Gobert winds up in contention for the Defensive Player of the Year award again and wins it. The bench does everything they’re supposed to and sits in the top 10 for bench points per game.

not sure the bench players will score that much. A couple of their starters will be out there doing the scoring with the bench guys I would think, Most of the points should be there big 4

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Rudy Gobert continues making his mark on defense and is in contention for Defensive Player of the Year by season’s end. He nearly sets a career-high in blocks, yet his points per game drop a somewhat significant amount due to more scoring options on the roster.

not sure. He will certainly be more efficient
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Old 10-09-2019, 02:14 PM   #84
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Eric Walden: Rudy Gobert and Joe Ingles will also miss tonight’s game due to rest. – via Twitter tribjazz
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Old 10-09-2019, 02:18 PM   #85
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So same lineup as last game except ONeale for Ingles and Conley for Goss?

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Old 10-09-2019, 06:01 PM   #86
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https://www.ksl.com/article/46652104...-elite-offense

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With more than two weeks remaining until the regular season begins, it’s natural to theorize on how the Jazz’s rotation will look. Who will back up Mike Conley? Who will start at power forward? At small forward? Where will the likes of Bojan Bogdanovic, Joe Ingles, Green and Dante Exum play the majority of their minutes?

any luck Dante won't be playing

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No one is going expect Rudy Gobert to be bringing the ball up the court, but just about everyone else can initiate the offense, take guys off the dribble, create for others, etc. The offensive attack can come from anywhere. That makes things pretty hard to guard.

which we got a glimpse of the 2nd half of Hayward's last season. The question is why did they go back to Favors and get Ricky?

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It won’t be the first time the Jazz have run out a variation of a smaller lineup. Over the last two seasons, Jae Crowder played the role as a small-ball four. When the Jazz ran out Crowder along with the regular four starters, the Jazz outscored opponents by 14.2 points over 100 possessions, according to cleaningtheglass.com. The defense suffered without usual starter Derrick Favors on the floor, but the Utah offense performed at an elite level.

everyone seems to forget Favors getting benched and the corpse of Diaw, the last gasp of Joe Johnson and the bad toe of Hill


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With that as a backdrop, and considering the offensive upgrades the Jazz made this offseason (Conley, Bogdanovic, even Green), the Jazz should be among the league's best offensive teams.

along with a top D which makes them undoubtedly one of the best teams
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Old 10-09-2019, 06:06 PM   #87
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https://www.ksl.com/article/46652977...th-rudy-gobert

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“It allows guys like Bogie (Bojan Bogdanovic), Donovan (Mitchell) and myself — anybody who's in the corner on the weak side — to literally get wide-open shots, and you know, or get himself a wide-open dunk because nobody wants to help,” Conley said. “So he's a big part of what we're doing.”

it all revolves around him but keep giving everyone else credit

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Those lobs will be relatively new for Conley. He played with Marc Gasol for years — a player who was more of a pick-and-pop big than a pick-and-roll player. He threw a lot of bounce passes to Gasol, but it wasn't often Gasol was skying high for a lob. Conley figures his new pick-and-roll partner will make his already dangerous floater into even more of a weapon.

yep is it a floater or a lob!
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https://www.slcdunk.com/2019/10/9/20...-bucks-giannis

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After an absolute drubbing of the Adelaide 36ers without their three best players (no offense to Joe Ingles), the Utah Jazz will travel out to Milwaukee to take on last year’s one seed in the East, the Bucks. Led by Giannis Antetokounmpo, the Bucks will provide the Utah Jazz with their first real measuring stick for their offseason progress.

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While Utah has effectively guarded Giannis with Rudy Gobert before, Quin Snyder may want to test the upper limit of his smaller power forwards in Milwaukee. If Royce O’Neale, Jeff Green, or even Joe Ingles can prove to match up to Giannis and be effective, that’s a new wrinkle Utah could gain without having to stress test it in the regular season with win/loss column consequences. If Quin Snyder is the scientist, finding out who could guard a unicorn like Giannis will be his main experiment.

Rudy unless Freak starts shooting better
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Matt Velazquez: Bud says Sterling Brown and Ersan Ilyasova will rest tonight. D.J. Wilson (left hamstring strain) remains out. – via Twitter Matt_Velazquez
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https://www.slcdunk.com/the-downbeat...zz-draft-steal

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Can Miye Oni be the next Royce O’Neale?

can a rookie draft pick be the next free agent gem?

I see some one that could be what they hoped Exum would be

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Offensively, Oni likely won’t contribute much. His summer league numbers on offense weren’t terribly impressive, averaging 8.6 points in seven games and shooting 37.5 percent from the field. His debut preseason game, Oni remedied that slightly by shooting 4-of-7 for nine points and making 1-of-3 from deep. He also had this solid alley-oop dunk.

3 and d and can play with or without the ball. Shot well in college. Looked good from the elbow

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The beauty of Oni’s current position is that he doesn’t have to produce on offense. O’Neale never really has for Utah outside of a few outlier games. He’s just pulled his weight so as to not turn offense into a 4-on-5 affair. And though Oni is no worldbeater on offense, he shows plenty of potential to develop enough of an offensive game to stick with this Jazz roster and be a meaningful piece on a contending team.

ideally everyone but their centers can hit an open 3 and defend minimum

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Only one thing is going against Oni this season that will keep him from having an O’Neale-type rookie season (aside from us over-reactors all being spectacularly wrong about his potential): there’s not really much room in the rotation for Oni. Utah goes two or three deep at each position 1-3. Trying to fit a rookie into the mix of proven veterans outside of injury situations will choke out opportunities to prove himself.

they aren't deep but as a rookie you'd hope he starts with the Stars and someone else is capable of stepping up

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Can Brantley be the next Milsap ?

Posted by statpower on Oct 9, 2019 | 4:46 PM

He's a talent no doubt
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