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Old 02-05-2019, 01:25 AM   #31
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Harden would be a really elite shooter in the 90s. No way will he be able to drive the lane as much as he does in todays era. He would get touched up every game
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Old 02-05-2019, 01:27 AM   #32
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Do you retards realize Drexler was a rich mans Klay Thompson
You calling people retards and then making this comparison is just astoundingly ironic.
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Old 02-05-2019, 01:59 AM   #33
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Too many elite big men in 90s for them to be top 3. Top ten yeah probably.

Dinosaurs that cant shoot 3s? Nah bruh
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Old 02-05-2019, 02:02 AM   #34
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FFS, I grew up in the 90's and it's astounding how overrated you guys make it out to be. Harden and Durant have completely unique skillsets that would make then extremely hard to gaurd. Harden would be a bigger version of Tim Hardaway. Hardaway was constantly put in isolation with tons of success. Harden wouldn't be much different.

And if a Detlef Schrempf or a Tony Kucok found starting positions in the 90's you don't think Durant could star? What did Chris Mullins do better than Durant?

Fukk outta here with that noise. The comparisons here are horrible.
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Old 02-05-2019, 02:12 AM   #35
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FFS, I grew up in the 90's and it's astounding how overrated you guys make it out to be. Harden and Durant have completely unique skillsets that would make then extremely hard to gaurd. Harden would be a bigger version of Tim Hardaway. Hardaway was constantly put in isolation with tons of success. Harden wouldn't be much different.

And if a Detlef Schrempf or a Tony Kucok found starting positions in the 90's you don't think Durant could star? What did Chris Mullins do better than Durant?

Fukk outta here with that noise. The comparisons here are horrible.

Now this is spot on.

Gotta rifle through 100 atrocious takes before you reach a good one on ISH.
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Old 02-05-2019, 02:25 AM   #36
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These guys wouldn't be able to space the floor back then anymore than Reggie Miller did for the Pacers - in other words - they wouldn't get to just stand behind the 3-point line as much

i.e. they wouldn't be the beneficiary of drive-and-kick threes - the easiest kind of three - because the point guard would be making entry passes, not high-screen-rolls.. durant/harden would have to run off multiple screens on an unspaced floor for threes, or pull-up against hand-checking.. either way it would be tougher to get threes back then for both

Of course, none of these guys can bang inside like they'd need to back then either.. MJ/bird/magic could all get real dirty inside - all the great players could back then, so durant's physique would be a question mark.. harden's lack of power drop-step would be a disadvantage to the standard above average SG back then.


Otoh, Embiid would be nice but maybe wouldn't hold up, like a lot of great bigs back then.. see bill walton.. Bowie.. Ralph . daughtery.. and more.. it was a more bruising game, not today's no-contact movement all over the court like a routine more than a game at times

Guys like lebron, Simmons, Blake... Guys with POWER would be really good back then.. still inferior to mj/magic/Coleman

Or maybe durant would be considered a superior Reggie Lewis and people would have the durant-bird debate, which durant would lose very badly (because he can't bang inside like bird, a more effective brand back then))

Or maybe it's somewhere in between
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Old 02-05-2019, 01:02 PM   #37
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These guys wouldn't be able to space the floor back then anymore than Reggie Miller did for the Pacers - in other words - they wouldn't get to just stand behind the 3-point line as much

i.e. they wouldn't be the beneficiary of drive-and-kick threes - the easiest kind of three - because the point guard would be making entry passes, not high-screen-rolls.. durant/harden would have to run off multiple screens on an unspaced floor for threes, or pull-up against hand-checking.. either way it would be tougher to get threes back then for both

Of course, none of these guys can bang inside like they'd need to back then either.. MJ/bird/magic could all get real dirty inside - all the great players could back then, so durant's physique would be a question mark.. harden's lack of power drop-step would be a disadvantage to the standard above average SG back then.


Otoh, Embiid would be nice but maybe wouldn't hold up, like a lot of great bigs back then.. see bill walton.. Bowie.. Ralph . daughtery.. and more.. it was a more bruising game, not today's no-contact movement all over the court like a routine more than a game at times

Guys like lebron, Simmons, Blake... Guys with POWER would be really good back then.. still inferior to mj/magic/Coleman

Or maybe durant would be considered a superior Reggie Lewis and people would have the durant-bird debate, which durant would lose very badly (because he can't bang inside like bird, a more effective brand back then))

Or maybe it's somewhere in between
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This is just a bias mess of hot vomit. This reeks of lack of knowledge and semantics. Stick to sucking Jordan's dick and bashing Lebron.

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Old 02-05-2019, 01:06 PM   #38
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Now this is spot on.

Gotta rifle through 100 atrocious takes before you reach a good one on ISH.

You can never get an honest take because every comment has an underlying agenda. This one is boosting the 90's agenda like it's some rough and tumble league that today's players couldn't play. People need to get out of their asses and see things through an unbiased lens.
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Old 02-05-2019, 01:34 PM   #39
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You can never get an honest take because every comment has an underlying agenda. This one is boosting the 90's agenda like it's some rough and tumble league that today's players couldn't play. People need to get out of their asses and see things through an unbiased lens.
Here's facts

Today's game doesn't allow contact on-ball or off-ball like they used to, or at all

Today's game has flagrant fouls

Today's game has crazy spacing and a wide open middle of the floor

Today's game offers easy 3-point looks from drive-and-kick (players can just wait behind line)

Today's game has the highest ortg and efg ever (easiest scoring environment)

And on.. and on.. these are all facts.. there's no bias in stating the damn league rules and stats.. ur just bitching, literally denying the facts
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Old 02-05-2019, 01:54 PM   #40
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Here's facts

Today's game doesn't allow contact on-ball or off-ball like they used to, or at all

Today's game has flagrant fouls

Today's game has crazy spacing and a wide open middle of the floor

Today's game offers easy 3-point looks from drive-and-kick (players can just wait behind line)

Today's game has the highest ortg and efg ever (easiest scoring environment)

And on.. and on.. these are all facts.. there's no bias in stating the damn league rules and stats.. ur just bitching, literally denying the facts

Here's facts. Ball handlers and shooters like Harden and Durant existed in the 90's. Harden and Durant are a lot more skilled than most of them in the 90's. Guys like Tim Hardaway and Chris Mullins had no problem dominating in the 90's. Harden and Durant are another level better.

Bird and Magic who you used as examples were shells of themselves in the 90's. Somlearn your history.

So fakk outta here with your bias hot mess. Your facts don't mean shit to the eye test. You're talking about league MVPs here.
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Old 02-05-2019, 01:56 PM   #41
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And to point out how stupidly bias you are, you use examples of Bowie to say Embiid would make it. Yet fail to recognize players like Harden and Durant are similar to were much better than Bowie. Lol. Makes no sense.
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Old 02-05-2019, 02:09 PM   #42
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Here's facts. Ball handlers and shooters like Harden and Durant existed in the 90's. Harden and Durant are a lot more skilled than most of them in the 90's. Guys like Tim Hardaway and Chris Mullins had no problem dominating in the 90's. Harden and Durant are another level better.

Bird and Magic who you used as examples were shells of themselves in the 90's. Somlearn your history.

So fakk outta here with your bias hot mess. Your facts don't mean shit to the eye test. You're talking about league MVPs here.
That's fine because that's closer to harden's physical ability - he'd be more like they were, which makes sense since his stats and performance wouldn't be propped up by extra room to isolate, wide driving lanes or open paint that he enjoys in today's spaced-out, no contact, 3-pointer routine (not a sport)

That's just a fact
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Old 02-05-2019, 02:13 PM   #43
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Both guys would have had a hard time succeeding in the NBA in the 90s. Much better league then. I'm not a big LeBron guy, but he would have held up fairly well. No one would be screaming that he's top 5 of all time then like some do now though. LeBron would have missed a lot of time playing against physical defenders too, and might be retired by this age.
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Old 02-05-2019, 02:14 PM   #44
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Both guys would have had a hard time succeeding in the NBA in the 90s. Much better league then. I'm not a big LeBron guy, but he would have held up fairly well. No one would be screaming that he's top 5 of all time then like some do now though. LeBron would have missed a lot of time playing against physical defenders too, and might be retired by this age.

Bran would be borderline top 5 in that era let alone "top 5 all time"
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Old 02-05-2019, 02:24 PM   #45
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the '90s averaged like 5-6 more foul calls per game

Harden would absolutely dominate since he would get 15 FTAs per game and his three pointer would be even more deadly since nobody could defend the three back then (loq IQ perimeter defenders used to easy iso against nonskilled oafs).
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