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Old 04-08-2011, 11:14 AM   #31
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Default Re: Would Bulls fans trade Derrick Rose for LeBron James if they had the chance?

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i love the double standard, lebron has 3 hs state titles, his led his team to the nba finals but supposedly his not a winner, while mr. rose led his team to a championship game in the ncaa and he is a winner. lets not act like lebron hasn't done what rose is doing with a crappier roster.

NCAA Finals > NBA Finals apparently.
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Old 04-08-2011, 11:14 AM   #32
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rose is clearly a winner and lebron isnt. because you know how lebrons been to the finals and all and rose hasnt gotten out of the first round. clearly hes just more of a winner.

so yeah, defs rose because hes a winner...
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Old 04-08-2011, 11:15 AM   #33
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Not a bulls fan, but I wouldn't trade a rising superstar for a proven playoff choker.
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Old 04-08-2011, 11:17 AM   #34
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Default Re: Would Bulls fans trade Derrick Rose for LeBron James if they had the chance?

People saying LBJ hasn't won shit, neither has Rose James has lead a VERY weak team out of an admittedly weak East, Rose might get out of the East with a far stronger team.
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Old 04-08-2011, 11:20 AM   #35
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People saying LBJ hasn't won shit, neither has Rose James has lead a VERY weak team out of an admittedly weak East, Rose might get out of the East with a far stronger team.

Fixed: in a much stronger Eastern Conference.

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Old 04-08-2011, 11:20 AM   #36
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Fixed: In a much stronger Eastern Conference.

Yeah, the point is, he still hasn't done it yet.
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Old 04-08-2011, 11:26 AM   #37
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Fixed: in a much stronger Eastern Conference.

fixed: with a far stronger team.
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Old 04-08-2011, 11:28 AM   #38
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He hasn't.

And i still LOL at the idea that Lebron hasn't proven he's a winner. Look what he did in Cleveland. He turned a 17 win team into a finals team, the team that came closest to beating the future champs in 08, and then two back to back 60 plus win seasons.

All while not having a good 2nd option or a quality team.

No superstar perimeter player has ever won anything with a team comparable to those Cavs.

Only Hakeem and Duncan have won titles with comparable talent. Thats it.


well lebron to me is the best basketball player in the world today but come on man stop saying the guy's a winner,
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Old 04-08-2011, 11:29 AM   #39
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What happened to the unwaivering confidence of the bandwagon Heat fans? Weren't they supposed to win, not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4, not 5, not 6, not 7etc...NBA Championships.
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Old 04-08-2011, 11:32 AM   #40
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What happened to the unwaivering confidence of the bandwagon Heat fans? Weren't they supposed to win, not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4, not 5, not 6, not 7etc...NBA Championships.

where did heat fans state their confidence in this team was any lower at any point in this thread?
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Old 04-08-2011, 11:33 AM   #41
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Default Re: Would Bulls fans trade Derrick Rose for LeBron James if they had the chance?

What a dumb thread. Lebron is better, but of course they wouldn't trade him.

For one, Rose is WAAYY cheaper. A straight up LBJ for Rose maybe, but that wouldn't work under the cap, so you'd have to include more (good) members of your team for more (bad) members of the Heat, to make it work money-wise.

Two, Rose is way younger. You have a younger, cheaper, player who's about to win MVP, and the Bulls are the #1 seed. Yes the organization wants to win, but pro sports are a business. If you are already providing your fan with a winning team that has a chance to win it all, and you're selling out every game, go with the younger player. You make money longer most likely. On top of that, he's a hometown player, why risk pissing off your fanbase (aka your $$$).

Three, Rose is arguably getting himself into the top 5 convo after this year. The talent difference is there, but not large enough to risk screwing up something that is already working. Chicago lucked out getting the #1 pick a few years ago, due to no GM skills of their own, be happy that luck is working out, dont pull a Danny Ainge and screw it up.
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Old 04-08-2011, 11:45 AM   #42
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I think it's more a case of Lebron being a proven choker more than anything else.
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Old 04-08-2011, 11:52 AM   #43
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rose with a team >>>>>>>>>lebron with a team
lebron >>>>rose - one on one
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Old 04-08-2011, 11:53 AM   #44
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Not a chance. Rose is way too loved by the fans, teammates, and coaches. Trading away Rose would be the Celtics trading away Perkins x 1000 as far as the reaction to it goes.

Not to mention the following:

He's younger.

He doesn't care about anything but basketball and winning, unlike Lebron who does care too much about his stats and too much off the court stuff like his "brand".

If the Bulls want him, he'll be there for the rest of his career, which could be 10-15 years. If the Bulls don't win enough in the 4-5 years, good chance Lebron leaves. If he didn't have a problem leaving Cleveland after winning 60 games for back to back seasons, he'd have less of a problem leaving a team that wasn't his hometown and was traded to.

Its not like trading Rose for Lebron makes this team so much better, if better at all. You don't get much better then a title contender winning 60 games and the no. 1 seed with a bunch of injuries to some of your best players. Lebron won't make this team that much, if better at all, to make up for all those reasons I've mentioned above.
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Old 04-08-2011, 12:00 PM   #45
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well lebron to me is the best basketball player in the world today but come on man stop saying the guy's a winner,

so MJ wasn't a winner for his first 6 years?

Shaq for his first 8?

Hakeem for his first 10?

stay consistent and you look like a fool.

I love how Hakeem would be considered a loser on this board for his first ten years.

How about stockton and malone? career losers?

LOL
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