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Old 11-10-2007, 03:46 PM   #16
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The player that contributed most to their respective team's wins. While winning at least 45 games.
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Old 11-10-2007, 03:57 PM   #17
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the best player, the player that i would pick first if i were to start a team from scratch at the beginning of the year.

i.e. tim duncan every year by a large margin

(although if garnett steps it up, he could win)

no one else has a shot
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Old 11-10-2007, 04:03 PM   #18
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The player that contributed most to their respective team's wins. While winning at least 45 games.

45!?!?!

Wow. So pretty much the best player on a playoff team, huh?
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Old 11-10-2007, 04:04 PM   #19
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45!?!?!

Wow. So pretty much the best player on a playoff team, huh?
45 wins get you into the playoffs.
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Old 11-10-2007, 04:05 PM   #20
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Bieng White increases your chances at winning

Nash, Nash, Dirk
hm...............

Which is why 75% of MVPs in the last 20 years have been white, right?
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Old 11-10-2007, 04:08 PM   #21
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45 wins get you into the playoffs.

Yes, I understand that. I'm saying that isn't a very impressive number because that barely puts your team in the top 10.
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Old 11-10-2007, 04:11 PM   #22
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Yes, I understand that. I'm saying that isn't a very impressive number because that barely puts your team in the top 10.
If the Lakers won 45 games, and kobe averaged 32/5/4 this year, he would get MVP, no?
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Old 11-10-2007, 04:12 PM   #23
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The MVP award should go to the player with the best overall stats whose team made it to the playoffs mainly because of them.
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Old 11-10-2007, 04:19 PM   #24
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If the Lakers won 45 games, and kobe averaged 32/5/4 this year, he would get MVP, no?
No. Go look up Kobe's 2005-2006 numbers.
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Old 11-10-2007, 04:20 PM   #25
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If the Lakers won 45 games, and kobe averaged 32/5/4 this year, he would get MVP, no?

No. He did better than that in 2005-06 and didn't get it. 45 wins, 35.4/5.3/4.5.
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Old 11-10-2007, 04:22 PM   #26
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In my opinion you cant be the MOST VALUABLE PLAYER in the league when your team has no real value in terms of competitiveness and a real title shot. If your team is no real threat... then what is your value really?

Basketball is a team game so team success is more important then individual success. You cant just base MVP on a player cuz his team sucks and would suck worst with out him. If thatís the case you could make an argument for allot of players.

MVP is a guy on a team who has a real shot at the title... and his role on the team is huge, and he steps up to the challenge night in and night out.

Itís easy to be on a losing team and chuck up shot after shot while losing. But to be on a competitive team, and keep them competitive is a whole different thing all together.

For example, the Mavs last year in the playoffs. Yes Dirk got the MVP... but when his team was losing was the perfect time to show why he is MVP, and he choked. a real MVP would have stepped up and did the necessary things to keep his team competitive on both ends of the court.

Thats what MVP is about, no matter how good your team is... you keep them good. You step up and make the game deciding plays. If your team is not competitive its no point in being MVP cuz there will be nothing memorable about your season.
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Old 11-10-2007, 04:24 PM   #27
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Only way Kobe gets MVP is if he gets his team 50+ wins (al la Iverson in 2001). Kobe winning MVP now is like McGrady winning the award in his Orlando days (which means it won't happen).
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Old 11-10-2007, 04:27 PM   #28
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No. Go look up Kobe's 2005-2006 numbers.
No. Go look up what I said again, THIS YEAR. That was in the past, but if he did it this year, then he would get MVP, at least my vote.
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Old 11-10-2007, 04:34 PM   #29
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Why would it matter that it is this year? How is this year so different from that year?
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Old 11-10-2007, 04:35 PM   #30
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Only way Kobe gets MVP is if he gets his team 50+ wins (al la Iverson in 2001). Kobe winning MVP now is like McGrady winning the award in his Orlando days (which means it won't happen).

If LA wins 50+ games (which they were on pace to do so last year before injuries) and Kobe leads the league in scoring, and continues to play defense the way he has in this early season...he easily wins the MVP.

30 PPG, 7.6 RPG, 5.0 APG, 2.8 SPG, 1.2 BPG on 50% shooting...so far in 5 games.
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