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Old 02-04-2014, 02:04 AM   #16
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Default Re: Andrew Bogut vs Roy Hibbert

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Bogut's the better offensive center (very underrated passer). Bill Walton's a big fan of his.

Definitely agree, with the Bucks even in his best seasons he got very little hype.
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I think the biggest reason he isn't is because most people expected GS to be near the top, pretty much where Portland is at right now. Instead they're hovering in a dangerous spot with Memphis coming for them and Dallas keeping steady.

Yeah, Milbuck's hypothesis is probably correct. He'll probably get media recognition again if he explodes in the playoffs like he did last year
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Old 02-04-2014, 02:54 AM   #17
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Bogut's impact probably won't be as recognised until they hit playoffs again, that's when the game slows down and defense becomes more important. Indiana have the advantage of the media right now because they burst out of the gates and are the team to 'dethrone' Miami, and because Hibbert's so important to that he's getting the nods. There's also only 2 teams out East to talk about in a positive light. Chuck Golden State's team out East and Bogut might get more recognition right now
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Old 02-04-2014, 03:26 AM   #18
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Hibbert "should" be the unanimous DPOY


that trumps anything you can say about Bogut
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Old 02-04-2014, 03:44 AM   #19
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Bogut is a straight up beast

His defense definitely can't be measured in stats, but for different reasons than Hibbert. Hibbert gets allowed to use "verticality" more than any other center (not trying to take anything away from him, he is incredible), but Bogut just makes people want to stay far away from the rim, especially when he's playing nasty.

Like in the Warriors-Clippers game, Bogut blocked the sh1t outta Griffin and played some intense defense on him early, and Blake resorted to shooting jumpers for almost the entire game because he didn't want to approach Bogut. To Blake's credit he did hit a ****load of jumpers though.

But yeah Bogut, especially when playing mean, is a hugely underrated player. Underappreciated oop ability on the Warriors too, Lob City is overrated




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Old 02-04-2014, 03:45 AM   #20
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Bogut is a very underrated big man imo. Defensively, he is a top 5, possibly top 3, center in the league. Offensively, he is very good despite what his stats say and like finchyy said, he a excellent passer for a 5.

If Jackson drew up a few plays for him besides living by the three, he'd be putting up more than 8 points.
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Old 02-04-2014, 04:09 AM   #21
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Andrew Bogut for me.
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Old 02-04-2014, 04:53 AM   #22
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Roy Hibbert is horrible and overrated, just like the rest of the Pacers...
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Old 02-04-2014, 05:23 AM   #23
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Roy Hibbert is horrible and overrated, just like the rest of the Pacers...

except George Hill, that guy can really fly.
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Old 02-04-2014, 06:22 AM   #24
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Give me Hibbert. He can hurt you offensively which Bogut can't and in the playoffs that's what you want.

However Bogut is great at what he does. We saw what a hurt Bogut did in the playoffs last year.
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Old 02-04-2014, 06:23 AM   #25
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Don't worry man we'll see who's better in the finals
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Old 02-04-2014, 07:04 AM   #26
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Bogut is better than Shaq, but not way better
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Old 02-04-2014, 07:52 AM   #27
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Give me Hibbert. He can hurt you offensively which Bogut can't and in the playoffs that's what you want.

However Bogut is great at what he does. We saw what a hurt Bogut did in the playoffs last year.


Post injury Bogut is far superior to hibbert on offense. What can Hibbert do better then Bogut offensively other then shoot a 15 footer?
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Old 02-04-2014, 08:03 AM   #28
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Post injury Bogut is far superior to hibbert on offense. What can Hibbert do better then Bogut offensively other then shoot a 15 footer?


Hibbert produces when they need him to.
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Old 02-04-2014, 09:23 AM   #29
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Post injury Bogut is far superior to hibbert on offense. What can Hibbert do better then Bogut offensively other then shoot a 15 footer?

RAPM says Bogut's been better defensively than Hibbert but he has a negative impact on offensive. As a result, his overall RAPM is a bit worse than Hibberts.
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Old 02-04-2014, 09:39 AM   #30
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Hibbert unfairly gets all the media hype when Bogut is just as good as, if not better, than Hibbert IMO




and no one is allowed to set moving screens like bogut, just sayin
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