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Old 12-19-2013, 02:33 PM   #61
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yes he would.
put shaq on the 95 bulls and they win it too.
put pip on the 04 lakers instead of kobe and they win it too.
and his NOTHING to do with scoring ability.

You are beyond delusional. You honestly believe Pippen had the impact defensively of a dominant rim protecting center like a Hakeem or Duncan? Are you that delusional?

This nostalgic shit must stop man.

Pippen could MAYBE win with peak Shaq. But 2005-06 33 year Shaq who ran out of gas in the Finals? Yeah, not a chance. They don't even get past the Pistons.

Who would put the ball in the bucket and take over games scoring wise? Let's not gloss over the fact that Pippen was a shitty foul shooter as well.
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Old 12-19-2013, 02:35 PM   #62
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Aside from scoring, what does prime Wade do better than Pip?

shotblocking and playmaking

Also scoring can never be an "aside", it's the most important thing in the game

Also Wade can score when he absolutely must
when your team NEEDS a bucket or a few buckets to stay alive

this something that Pippen just couldn't do, wasn't in him

it's really not close
Wade is in another galaxy as a scorer

Pippen is in another neighbourhood or town as a man defender
both are in the same house as team defenders
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Old 12-19-2013, 02:38 PM   #63
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shotblocking and playmaking

Also scoring can never be an "aside", it's the most important thing in the game

Also Wade can score when he absolutely must
when your team NEEDS a bucket or a few buckets to stay alive

this something that Pippen just couldn't do, wasn't in him

it's really not close
Wade is in another galaxy as a scorer

Pippen is in another neighbourhood or town as a man defender
both are in the same house as team defenders


Wait, wait, wait. Playmaking? You realize that Pippen was the prototype for the Point Forward position, right? He's the one who usually initiated the plays for the Bulls.

And Scottie owns Wade as a team defender.

Fvck, Pip is getting disrespected like a mug up in this piece.
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Old 12-19-2013, 02:41 PM   #64
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Who would put the ball in the bucket and take over games scoring wise?

there you go.
here's a typical viewpoint of a lover of hero ball.
this is the reason why chuckers like jr smith and oj mayo get multi-million dollar contracts...
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Old 12-19-2013, 02:48 PM   #65
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there you go.
here's a typical viewpoint of a lover of hero ball.
this is the reason why chuckers like jr smith and oj mayo get multi-million dollar contracts...
Are all Kicks fans this dumb? You're comparing Wade's scoring to JR and OJ?

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put shaq on the 95 bulls and they win it too.
put pip on the 04 lakers instead of kobe and they win it too.
Why wouldn't the '95 Bulls win? Pippen, MJ, and Shaq.. If you're replacing MJ with Shaq, they'd get swept in the first round.
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Old 12-19-2013, 02:49 PM   #66
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Wait, wait, wait. Playmaking? You realize that Pippen was the prototype for the Point Forward position, right? He's the one who usually initiated the plays for the Bulls.

And Scottie owns Wade as a team defender.

Fvck, Pip is getting disrespected like a mug up in this piece.

Fvck Wade is getting disrespected like a mug up in this piece. See how easy that is? No one's disrespecting Pip to say that he's inferior to a player he's inferior to.
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Old 12-19-2013, 02:51 PM   #67
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there you go.
here's a typical viewpoint of a lover of hero ball.
this is the reason why chuckers like jr smith and oj mayo get multi-million dollar contracts...

Wait, Wade is now a "hero ball" "chucker"? Are you even reading what you're posting before you post it? You can have a different opinion, just don't have idiotic ones.
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Old 12-19-2013, 02:53 PM   #68
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Wait, wait, wait. Playmaking? You realize that Pippen was the prototype for the Point Forward position, right? He's the one who usually initiated the plays for the Bulls.

So what?
Wade did that same thing for 7 seasons with the Heat, avg 7 apg from 03-04 thru 09-10, 1.3 ast more than Scottie had in his BEST season. Two seasons avg 7.5 ast to Scottie's high of 5.7.

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And Scottie owns Wade as a team defender.

No he doesn't, Wade's a career 2stl, 1blk guy and has a season where he avg 2.2 stls and 1.3 blks, 200 stls 100 blk HISTORIC sh!t. If you're arguing versatility that's one thing cause Pip can guard some 4's whereas Wade guards 1-3, but if we're talking team D, making rotations, playing passing lanes, steals, blocks, deflections, closing out, being disruptive Wade is JUST as good as Pippen if not better AND Wade did it expending FAR more energy on offense and producing much more on offense.

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****, Pip is getting disrespected like a mug up in this piece.

No he's not stop with the silly hyperbole, yall trying to boost up Pip into this demigod, cut it out, he's NOT better than Wade PERIOD.
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Old 12-19-2013, 02:55 PM   #69
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there you go.
here's a typical viewpoint of a lover of hero ball.
this is the reason why chuckers like jr smith and oj mayo get multi-million dollar contracts...

Don't be obtuse.

Here's the reality: Pippen was a streaky scorer, and a shit foul shooter(for a wing player). He was not one who could go a 1-4 isolation clinic, and bury and demoralize teams with his scoring prowess on demand. He had the prototypical skillset of that of a complimentary star. A number 2. A role where he could focus on defense/playmaking.

Scottie Pippen = Andre Iguodala on steroids

He was a great player, but not nearly as great as some of you try to paint him as.

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Old 12-19-2013, 03:13 PM   #70
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Prime Pippen playoff avg (age 24-30)

20/8/6 2stl/lblk 46% FG 16 FGA

Wade (age 23-29)

27/6/6 2stl, 1blk 49% FG 19.5 FGA

cut it out people
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Old 12-19-2013, 03:16 PM   #71
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Holy shit man, the underrating of Wade is just hilarious. And I don't think people are trolling either; they actually believe Pippen is better.
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Old 12-19-2013, 03:20 PM   #72
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And Pippen never did nothing of that sort. *shrugs*

Why couldn't Pippen carry the load in 95, and help a somewhat rusty MJ? Can't use the Pete Meyers excuse there, he had MJ back!

It wasn't until the following year where the Bulls got back to winning, when the GOAT got back to full speed conditioning wise from his basketball hiatus, so Pippen could assume his true position. The sidekick. The Number 2.







You will never see Wade quit on his teammates because a play wasn't drawn up for him. I know that much.
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And Pippen never did nothing of that sort. *shrugs*

It was a fluke. You asked whats the difference between Jordan and Wade? Jordan did it for years. Wade for 3 games. I swear I've never seen a players whole career predicated off of three ****n games. THREE!!!!!!!!!



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You will never see Wade quit on his teammates because a play wasn't drawn up for him. I know that much.
But you know what we have seen from Wade?

Plays like this
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...wjyFZUeitJV97g

And this
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...PQnBItOBqbYl9w

Stop acting as if Wade is some kind of Saint. Hes probably the dirtiest player in the league
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Old 12-19-2013, 03:24 PM   #73
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Not sure how this became a Kobe/Wade vs Pippen topic, but I agree w/ this. Pippen didn't have enough in his scoring arsenal to be considered a 'first option'.

Because I think it should knock some sense into people. Kobe is better than Pippen....and I think most understand that. And considering prime Wade and prime Kobe are basically equal in impact....it's the same thing as saying Pippen is better than Kobe. This doesn't seem to be a career ranking thing...it seems to be a basketball impact thing.

And with Pippen...longevity isn't the issue. Pippen had like what...maybe a 8 or 9 year stretch when he was great.

Wade has already matched that...and Wade's prime/peak play from like 05 through 11 was just a notch above Pippen's.
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Old 12-19-2013, 03:26 PM   #74
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Err, how about the entire '09 season? The '11 Finals?
You mentioned the 11 Finals. And even then, that wasn't the same. Why? Because the refs weren't bailing him out all series long and more importantly, THE HEAT LOST. AS THE FAVORITE WITH HOME COURT ADVANTAGE.
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Old 12-19-2013, 03:29 PM   #75
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09 Wade is better than Pippen ever was and it's really not even close.
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