The GOAT List: 100 Greatest Players in Basketball History

[B-Diddy=2Easy]

HE's been elite since 2000 ... and none, but look at his guard competition. Kobe, AI, McGrady, Kidd, Nash, (GP in his early years) and now Wade, CP3 in recent years.

Elite? LMAO

He's never been a top 5 player a his position.

[L.Kizzle]

Elite? LMAO

He's never been a top 5 player a his position.

List the top 5 2guards every year since 1997?

[chitownsfinest]

Elite? LMAO

He's never been a top 5 player a his position.

He was a top 5 sg in 2001, 2002, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2007, and 2008.

[B-Diddy=2Easy]

List the top 5 2guards every year since 1997?

Am I your damn maid? I've already had this discussion before. Ray Allen was never a top 5 SG or Wing player in the league. He has one season where you can consider him a top 5 SG.

[B-Diddy=2Easy]

He was a top 5 sg in 2001, 2002, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2007, and 2008.

No he wasn't, moron. You're assuming. Like I've said, I've had this discussion before. There was a lot of good 2Gs this decade, Ray was never top 5.

[chitownsfinest]

No he wasn't, moron. You're assuming. Like I've said, I've had this discussion before. There was a lot of good 2Gs this decade, Ray was never top 5.

He was an all star in all the seasons I mentioned. Also, the East was loaded with good guards in the early 2000s and Ray manged to make it on those all star teams. That shows how good he was to beat out other really good guards in his conference. He made 9 all star games this decade. He is definitely a top 5 sg from this decade behind KB, AI, Wade, and maybe VC.

[L.Kizzle]

Am I your damn maid? I've already had this discussion before. Ray Allen was never a top 5 SG or Wing player in the league. He has one season where you can consider him a top 5 SG.

Sure kid, he was top 5 in the following seasons:


2000 was close
AI
VC
KB
Eddie Jones
Allan Houston
Finley
Stackhouse
Reggie Miller
(No Ray Allen)

by 2001, was a perennial top 5
AI
Kobe
Mac
Stackhouse
Ray Allen

2002
Mac
Kobe
AI
Ray Allen
Finley

2003
Mac
Kobe
AI
Ray Allen
Finley

2004
Kobe
AI
Mac
Ray Allen
Rip

2005
Kobe
AI
VC
Ray Allen
Wade

2006
Kobe
Wade
VC
AI
Ray Allen

2007
Kobe
Wade
AI
T-Mac
VC
(no Ray Allen)

2008
Kobe
Wade
Mac
AI
Roy
no Ray Allen

2009
Wade
Kobe
Roy
JJ
Ray Allen

[chitownsfinest]

Kizzle, VC was more of a guard in the early part of this decade and T-Mac was more of a forward. I would switch the two around.

[IInvented]

Jesus Shuttlesworth is top 50..

[L.Kizzle]

Kizzle, VC was more of a guard in the early part of this decade and T-Mac was more of a forward. I would switch the two around.

It's actually the other way around. VC was the forward in those Raps teams (post T-Mac) and Mac was the guard on those ORL teams. Remember those East All-Star games, the starting backcourt was always Mac and AI and VC was the 3 man. Once VC went to NJ, he was back to the guard spot (which he started his career.)

Mac was a forward with TO, but when in ORL, was the sg as Hill and later Mike Miller were the sfs.

[IInvented]

b diddy get the **** outta here

[B-Diddy=2Easy]

He was an all star in all the seasons I mentioned. Also, the East was loaded with good guards in the early 2000s and Ray manged to make it on those all star teams. That shows how good he was to beat out other really good guards in his conference. He made 9 all star games this decade. He is definitely a top 5 sg from this decade behind KB, AI, Wade, and maybe VC.

He made allstar teams, so what? Other guards didn't make allstar teams? He made 6 allstar team outright. He has been an injury replacement 3 times.

2008-2009
Kobe
Wade
Roy
Johnson
Carter
Gordan


2007-2008
Kobe
Wade
Roy
Johnson
Carter

2006-2007
Kobe
Wade
Iverson
Carter
Redd

2005-2006
Kobe
Wade
Iverson
Allen
Redd

[B-Diddy=2Easy]

Sure kid, he was top 5 in the following seasons:


2000 was close
AI
VC
KB
Eddie Jones
Allan Houston
Finley
Stackhouse
Reggie Miller
(No Ray Allen)

by 2001, was a perennial top 5
AI
Kobe
Mac
Stackhouse
Ray Allen

2002
Mac
Kobe
AI
Ray Allen
Finley

2003
Mac
Kobe
AI
Ray Allen
Finley

2004
Kobe
AI
Mac
Ray Allen
Rip

2005
Kobe
AI
VC
Ray Allen
Wade

2006
Kobe
Wade
VC
AI
Ray Allen

2007
Kobe
Wade
AI
T-Mac
VC
(no Ray Allen)

2008
Kobe
Wade
Mac
AI
Roy
no Ray Allen

2009
Wade
Kobe
Roy
JJ
Ray Allen

This is nothing but BS. That's nothing but your opinions. The only season he was a top 5 SG was in 05-06. Your lists are sh*t.

[chitownsfinest]

It's actually the other way around. VC was the forward in those Raps teams (post T-Mac) and Mac was the guard on those ORL teams. Remember those East All-Star games, the starting backcourt was always Mac and AI and VC was the 3 man. Once VC went to NJ, he was back to the guard spot (which he started his career.)

Mac was a forward with TO, but when in ORL, was the sg as Hill and later Mike Miller were the sfs.

I was talking about style's of play. VC was listed as a forward and T-Mac was listed as a guard but VC played more like a guard and T-Mac played more like a forward considering his 6-8 frame. It's cool if that is the criteria you used to rank them though.

[L.Kizzle]

This is nothing but BS. That's nothing but your opinions. The only season he was a top 5 SG was in 05-06. Your lists are sh*t.

Um, no sh!t, just as your list are your opinions. Or let me guess, your opinions are the truth, hm.