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    Exclamation Hand-checking is alive and well....

    I'm seeing it in EVERY play-off game so far.

    I don't want to hear jordan jockers bring this up anymore. The myth has been destroyed.

    The toughest defense has been played post 2001-, when illegal defense was abolished and full zones were made legal. The combination of no Illegal defense and hand-checking has proved to throw the balance in the defenses favor.

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    Default Re: Hand-checking is alive and well....

    Agreed,

    It's like this. I'm sitting here watching the NBA playoffs and all I'm seeing is hand-checks on the perimeter. You are spot on with this thread

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    It's a no brainer really

    They expect us to think they can use an Illegal defense no call argument when it applies exactly the same for hand-checking!

    Only.... Hand-checking is an interpretation and Illegal defense was a 2000 word rule book with a strict set of guidelines which boiled down to an easy to understand set of parameters...

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    .. But the hand-check and physicality ban is IN the rules and always will be.. Here's the NBA officially stating how the rule changes accomplished their objective of incresasing dribble-penetration - this is from the source, so it's not subjective opinion, just like Bill Gates vision for Microsoft was never considered subjective opinion:

    http://www.nba.com/2009/news/feature...son/index.html


    NBA.COM: Since the hand-checking rule was interpreted differently beginning in the 2004-05 season, the game has opened up. [COLOR="Red"]Players are penetrating and the floor is spread.[/COLOR] As a result, scoring has risen every season. Was this anticipated back in 2004?

    STU JACKSON: Our objective was to allow for more offensive freedom by not allowing defenders to hand-, forearm- or body-check ball handlers. [COLOR="Red"]By doing so, we encouraged more dribble penetration. As players penetrated more[/COLOR], it produced higher quality shots for the ball handler as well as shots for teammates on passes back out to perimeter. When NBA players get higher quality shots -- having more time to shoot -- they tend to make more of them.


    NBA.COM: Shooting percentages have risen since 2004-05 regardless of location -- at-the-rim shots, short- and deep-mid range and 3-pointers. Does this surprise you, especially the higher percentages from 3-point range?

    STU JACKSON: It doesn't. [COLOR="Red"]With the rule and interpretation changes, it has become more difficult for defenders to defend penetration[/COLOR], cover the entire floor on defensive rotations and recover to shooters. With more dribble penetration, ball handlers are getting more opportunities at the rim.


    NBA.COM: From an Xs and Os perspective, how have coaches adjusted to a more wide-open game? What have they done differently?

    STU JACKSON: [COLOR="Red"]Coaches have utilized more space on the floor so to create more room for dribble penetration[/COLOR], two-man pick-and-roll basketball and dribble exchanges on the perimeter.


    NBA.COM: When you watch the game today, does it closely resemble an international game or are there still distinct differences in the style of play?

    STU JACKSON: Our game does more closely resemble an international game in terms of the style of play than it used to. However, there are distinct differences in the international game vs. the NBA game. [COLOR="Red"]The international game utilizes a pure zone defense (as opposed to the defensive three-second rule), which allows frontcourt players to stand in the middle of the lane and discourage cutting, passing and dribble penetration.[/COLOR]

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    Default Re: Hand-checking is alive and well....

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
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    Here's the NBA officially stating how the rule changes accomplished their objective of incresasing dribble-penetration - this is from the source, so it's not subjective opinion, just like Bill Gates vision for Microsoft was never considered subjective opinion:

    http://www.nba.com/2009/news/feature...son/index.html


    NBA.COM: Since the hand-checking rule was interpreted differently beginning in the 2004-05 season, the game has opened up. [COLOR="Red"]Players are penetrating and the floor is spread.[/COLOR] As a result, scoring has risen every season. Was this anticipated back in 2004?

    STU JACKSON: Our objective was to allow for more offensive freedom by not allowing defenders to hand-, forearm- or body-check ball handlers. [COLOR="Red"]By doing so, we encouraged more dribble penetration. As players penetrated more[/COLOR], it produced higher quality shots for the ball handler as well as shots for teammates on passes back out to perimeter. When NBA players get higher quality shots -- having more time to shoot -- they tend to make more of them.


    NBA.COM: Shooting percentages have risen since 2004-05 regardless of location -- at-the-rim shots, short- and deep-mid range and 3-pointers. Does this surprise you, especially the higher percentages from 3-point range?

    STU JACKSON: It doesn't. [COLOR="Red"]With the rule and interpretation changes, it has become more difficult for defenders to defend penetration[/COLOR], cover the entire floor on defensive rotations and recover to shooters. With more dribble penetration, ball handlers are getting more opportunities at the rim.


    NBA.COM: From an Xs and Os perspective, how have coaches adjusted to a more wide-open game? What have they done differently?

    STU JACKSON: [COLOR="Red"]Coaches have utilized more space on the floor so to create more room for dribble penetration[/COLOR], two-man pick-and-roll basketball and dribble exchanges on the perimeter.


    NBA.COM: When you watch the game today, does it closely resemble an international game or are there still distinct differences in the style of play?

    STU JACKSON: Our game does more closely resemble an international game in terms of the style of play than it used to. However, there are distinct differences in the international game vs. the NBA game. [COLOR="Red"]The international game utilizes a pure zone defense (as opposed to the defensive three-second rule), which allows frontcourt players to stand in the middle of the lane and discourage cutting, passing and dribble penetration.[/COLOR]

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    Default Re: Hand-checking is alive and well....

    Ha ha! Got him son!

    3ball get that weak shit out of here

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    Quote Originally Posted by SourSamCassell

    Ha ha! Got him son!
    The ban on hand-checking and physicality is IN the rules - it is illegal to hand-check - no amount of delusions will change this fact son.

    The league is soft as charmin - this is the consensus - EVERYONE thinks so..

    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=183958
    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=370166

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    Illegal defense WAS in the rulebooks. No amount of delusion will change this fact son.

    You and that dumbass don better get your story straight because I'm seeing a shit load of contradictions

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    Default Re: Hand-checking is alive and well....

    Quote Originally Posted by Im Still Ballin
    Illegal defense WAS in the rulebooks. No amount of delusion will change this fact son.

    You and that dumbass don better get your story straight because I'm seeing a shit load of contradictions
    Holy shit

    HOLY SHIT

    Shut it down

    SHUT IT DOWN

    3ball just got KILLED


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    Default Re: Hand-checking is alive and well....

    Quote Originally Posted by Im Still Ballin
    Illegal defense WAS in the rulebooks. No amount of delusion will change this fact son.

    You and that dumbass don better get your story straight because I'm seeing a shit load of contradictions

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    You guys are gonna break 3ball and it ain't gonna be pleasant.

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    Default Re: Hand-checking is alive and well....

    This 3ball guy sounds like a broken record and I've only been here for a week or so!

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    Default Re: Hand-checking is alive and well....

    im still beta stop making forum accounts all day and go get laid

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    Quote Originally Posted by warriorfan
    im still beta stop making forum accounts all day and go get laid

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