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Is Wade the GOAT Player without an MVP?
Or would you take West? Kidd? Stockton? Isiah? Ewing? Pippen? Baylor?
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big time kobe stan
Re: Is Wade the GOAT Player without an MVP?
When Wade wins a playoff series without Shaq or Lebron maybe we can talk.
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Re: Is Wade the GOAT Player without an MVP?
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Re: Is Wade the GOAT Player without an MVP?
Originally Posted by Fallen Angel
Stockton or West
Better than Stockton without question
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MJ & Kobe = GOAT
Re: Is Wade the GOAT Player without an MVP?
Originally Posted by JT123
When Wade wins a playoff series without Shaq or Lebron maybe we can talk.
He already has you idiot in fact he did his rookie season....
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Re: Is Wade the GOAT Player without an MVP?
Originally Posted by ShawkFactory
Better than Stockton without question
No.
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Wilt Davis
Re: Is Wade the GOAT Player without an MVP?
West is close to top 10. He has a playoff average of 29 ppg for his career and 30 in the finals.
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College star
Re: Is Wade the GOAT Player without an MVP?
On my all-time list I got...
West
Hondo
Baylor/Wade
then you got dudes like Zeke, Barry, Pip...
(would've been different in terms of peaks/primes though)
But Dwayne can definitely be argued as the GOAT player without a MVP, he has a great case.
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Re: Is Wade the GOAT Player without an MVP?
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I usually hit open layups
Re: Is Wade the GOAT Player without an MVP?
lots of guys:
West… < how can that be?? unforgivable…
Zeke… < how can that be?? unforgivable…
^ so those 2 are def. the greatest...
And then I'd say: Ewing, Drexler, Payton, Kidd and Rick Barry back in the day… are five more baffling ones since they so clearly were MVPs for their team…
but got robbed due to playing in era with another top 10 player and the resulting pileup of competition..
I think Reggie Miller should have got it with the 14 game winners he hit in 98 and as a sentimental nod to his importance to the Pacers over the years... but that's just me. They instead gave it to Jordan's victory lap..
Guys like Stockton, Pippen, Baylor, who were more the secondary star in their duos, I can see why they never got one.. I think Wade, like Reggie, falls between guys like that and other clearer upper half of top 50 greats…
Ps. ShaqIsGOAT is right tho, John Hondo also deserved one.. Was one of the main two men on 70's Celts that took down Oscar-Kareem... Just never worked out that way as with Kobe...
Last edited by superteamtheory; 07-31-2015 at 11:01 PM.
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Re: Is Wade the GOAT Player without an MVP?
John Stockton's record for assists and steals tell the story.
http://www.landofbasketball.com/nba_...n_stockton.htm
His awards and honors section is amazingly consistent.
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15x all nba legend
Re: Is Wade the GOAT Player without an MVP?
I specifically remember the 09 season and believing Wade deserved the MVP
he got robbed imo
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The Future Goat
Re: Is Wade the GOAT Player without an MVP?
Wade is better than Stockton. considerably
People argued at some points that he was better than Kobe.
He is a all-time great.
West has great argument to be better and Hondo I don't have info to argue.
Last edited by TripleA; 07-31-2015 at 11:03 PM.
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Re: Is Wade the GOAT Player without an MVP?
Stockton played all 82 games 16 times.
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