How come no body gives Nash the respect a 2 time MVP should get?

[bluechox2]

MVP goes to Phoenix medical stAff and their secret portal to the future where they smuggle back miracle drugs

[tpols]

Because Jeremy Lin looked like Allen Iverson under the same offensive system. Nash is obviously a great player, but a 2x MVP? A lot of that has to do with inflated regular season numbers and a lot of media hype.

where 15/6/3 = allen iverson.. he looked like poor mans Billups with no defense.

[joe]

Because Jeremy Lin looked like Allen Iverson under the same offensive system. Nash is obviously a great player, but a 2x MVP? A lot of that has to do with inflated regular season numbers and a lot of media hype.

Playoffs 2004-2005: Conference Finals

Nash: 23.9 Points. 11.3 Assists


Playoffs 2005-2006. Conference Finals Without Amare

Nash: 20.4 Points. 10.2 Assists


Playoffs 2006-2007. Conference Semi-Finals

Nash: 18.9 Points. 13.3 Assists


Playoffs 2009-2010. Conference Finals

Nash: 17.8 Points. 10.1 Assists

Every single one of these stats was up from his regular season statistics, minus his assist number in 2009-2010. If his regular season statistics were inflated, what were his playoff statistics?



Some clips...



Nash shredding the 2007 Spurs in the playoffs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSzjeA35jwQ



Nash dropping 48 on the Mavericks in the 2005 playoffs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0ZesF2ioEE



Nash with 34/13/12 against the Mavericks in that same series:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVyd19FDPkk



Nash 31 and 12 against the Clippers in the 2006 playoffs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1c7UvlW6Nw



Nash 32 and 13 against the Lakers in 2006 playoffs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8SN5oHl7aY


If anything, Nash underscored his own statistics in the regular season and always stepped it up in the playoffs. He was without a doubt one of the clutchest players in the league in his prime.

[Hoopz2332]

Lebron wasn't better than him.

The top 2 were clearly Dirk and Kobe, then everyone else was in the mix.

lebron was better than kobe that season. He put up 31 7 7

[G0ATbe]

Because he robbed Kobe of them.

[masonanddixon]

lebron was better than kobe that season. He put up 31 7 7

No he wasn't even close to Kobe. He just took a shitload of shots and was on a shitty team.

Dirk should've been MVP from 04-07, then Kobe for the next 3 seasons.

[navy]

Because he's white. Simple as that.

No one criticizes Iverson nor Rose even though neither of them deserved MVP and neither were top 5 players

Here we go again with your racism and bullshit.

The reason nobody gives Nash "respect" for his 2 MVPS is that he wasnt the best player in the league and all time point guard wise he hasnt dont anything other than win two MVPs. You'll often here him discredited when it comes to Kobe or Shaq having 1 mvp each. Nobody thinks Nash is on their level, so he is the primary candidate to discredit the award. In retrospect it really isnt about Nash but about other players and his relation to them.

Has nothing to do with him being white. But never put it past ISH's residential racist to suggest as such.

[masonanddixon]

Here we go again with your racism and bullshit.

The reason nobody gives Nash "respect" for his 2 MVPS is that he wasnt the best player in the league and all time point guard wise he hasnt dont anything other than win two MVPs. You'll often here him discredited when it comes to Kobe or Shaq having 1 mvp each. Nobody thinks Nash is on their level, so he is the primary candidate to discredit the award. In retrospect it really isnt about Nash but about other players and his relation to them.

Has nothing to do with him being white. But never put it past ISH's residential racist to suggest as such.

lol what did I say that was racist? Or is 'having opinions not shared by the herd' now code for 'racism'?

The fact is no one criticizes Rose and Iverson when they were clearly not the best nor even top 5 whereas Nash receives all sort of comments, and it's all because he's white. Nash has even come out and said so himself. Whether you want to be believe it or not, race plays a huge factor in basketball, especially with casual fans.

I don't think Shaq was even better that season. The only 3 guys definitely better in 04-05 were Dirk, Kobe, and Duncan. Nash led PHX to such a dramatic turnaround and out West that there was absolutely nothing wrong with him winning the MVP. He didn't deserve it in 05-06, and only got it because he kept a shittier PHX team to a top 5 record.

[Marchesk]

Nash is great but not Top 20.

Greatest PGs of all time:

1. Magic
2. Oscar
3. Stockton
4. Isiah
5. Nash

[oarabbus]

lol what did I say that was racist? Or is 'having opinions not shared by the herd' now code for 'racism'?

The fact is no one criticizes Rose and Iverson when they were clearly not the best nor even top 5 whereas Nash receives all sort of comments, and it's all because he's white. Nash has even come out and said so himself. Whether you want to be believe it or not, race plays a huge factor in basketball, especially with casual fans.

I don't think Shaq was even better that season. The only 3 guys definitely better in 04-05 were Dirk, Kobe, and Duncan. Nash led PHX to such a dramatic turnaround and out West that there was absolutely nothing wrong with him winning the MVP. He didn't deserve it in 05-06, and only got it because he kept a shittier PHX team to a top 5 record.

Lost all credibility when you said no one criticizes Rose and Iverson

[navy]

Lost all credibility when you said no one criticizes Rose and Iverson

Dude is a fool. No surprise he a racist.

[masonanddixon]

Lost all credibility when you said no one criticizes Rose and Iverson

Those two barely got criticized in comparison to Nash. Especially Iverson who was a one dimensional player that was inefficient at his only dimension.

[oarabbus]

Those two barely got criticized in comparison to Nash. Especially Iverson who was a one dimensional player that was inefficient at his only dimension.

I have NEVER seen anyone get disrespected as badly as Iverson, compared to the level of player that they were. Let's not even get started on Rose and his hundreds of memes making fun of him across two years of inactivity, not to mention the common sentiment that he was undeserving of MVP compared to bron.
Almost everyone acknowledges Nash as an all time great PG, except for some haters, and they're just haters. It doesn't have anything to do with race. No one says Nash sucks, what they do say is that he doesn't deserve 2xMVP. Which I personally don't agree with, but it's certainly a fair argument. I've surely never seen people disrespect Nash by saying Rondo is better.

And plus weren't you the same guy who said Lin isn't an NBA caliber player anyway? Was that you?

[masonanddixon]

I have NEVER seen anyone get disrespected as badly as Iverson, compared to the level of player that they were. Let's not even get started on Rose and his hundreds of memes making fun of him across two years of inactivity, not to mention the common sentiment that he was undeserving of MVP compared to bron.
Almost everyone acknowledges Nash as an all time great PG, except for some haters, and they're just haters. It doesn't have anything to do with race. No one says Nash sucks, what they do say is that he doesn't deserve 2xMVP. Which I personally don't agree with, but it's certainly a fair argument. I've surely never seen people disrespect Nash by saying Rondo is better.

And plus weren't you the same guy who said Lin isn't an NBA caliber player anyway? Was that you?

No I have never spoken about Lin.

I've also never seen someone receive so much undue praise as Iverson. It goes both ways with him, it appears...

[navy]

lol what did I say that was racist? Or is 'having opinions not shared by the herd' now code for 'racism'?

The fact is no one criticizes Rose and Iverson when they were clearly not the best nor even top 5 whereas Nash receives all sort of comments, and it's all because he's white. Nash has even come out and said so himself. Whether you want to be believe it or not, race plays a huge factor in basketball, especially with casual fans.

I don't think Shaq was even better that season. The only 3 guys definitely better in 04-05 were Dirk, Kobe, and Duncan. Nash led PHX to such a dramatic turnaround and out West that there was absolutely nothing wrong with him winning the MVP. He didn't deserve it in 05-06, and only got it because he kept a shittier PHX team to a top 5 record.

You always say racist things and give yourself away quite openly. It isnt even debatable at this point. You've already been exposed by me multiple times. How many times have you posted where you weren't making a post about about race? It's obvious.

Get out here with that nonsense. Nobody criticizes Iverson or Rose? You know for a fact that isnt true at all. If you didn't know that then youre just willfully ignorant.

Race doesnt play the factor that you think it does nor the factor that you try to put out there. Im not going to say that race has no effect on anything but Im not going to sit here and entertain your delusions. Well, I keep responding to you, so maybe that statement isnt true....

Nash won the MVP. Looking back he is one of the worst multiple mvps of all time. It's like being the worst A student, but it is just reality. He will get criticized, more so because he has more mvps than certain individuals not because he was a bad player.

And not because he was white.