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B-Eazy Mike Beasley
Re: Is the SG position officially the weakest position now?
As far as playing at a high level, competing every night? Both Ends? Shoot inside/outside? Fast break? Transition. Monta Elli hab it all.
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Re: Is the SG position officially the weakest position now?
No, not yet anyway.
I still think the C position is the worst position in the NBA.
After Dwight, Lopez, Gasol, and Bynum there is a big drop off in terms of Centers. Most are used only for their defense and rebounding, very few have a decent post game.
Meanwhile, SG's have:
Kobe
Harden
Wade
Eric Gordon
Iguodala
Monta
OJ Mayo
Kmart
Tyreke
Manu
Allen
Joe Johnson
JR
Klay
After Wade, there is a significant drop off, but it's not as steep as it is for Centers. Also, the top 3 SG's this season have way more impact in a game than the best Center, Dwight.
While the depth of the SG is relatively weak after the Top 3, the Top 3 SG's in the league have a legit argument to be in the Top 10 Players in the league.
No real order:
Lebron
Durant
Kobe
CP3
Duncan
Melo
Harden
Dwight
Wade
Parker
Rose should be included somewhere when he returns, but this season these players have been the best.
The only other position that has 3 players in the Top 10 is: SF or PF, depending on how you want to look at them.
Lebron and Melo are both playing a lot of PF this season, but they are traditionally SF's. Either way, they would either be included in SF's with Durant or PF's with Duncan.
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NBA Legend
Re: Is the SG position officially the weakest position now?
I think where you have a league where Kobe, Manu and Ray Allen are still considered the best 10 Sg's in the league then something is wrong with these new Sg's...
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Re: Is the SG position officially the weakest position now?
Originally Posted by Bandito
I think where you have a league where Kobe, Manu and Ray Allen are still considered the best 10 Sg's in the league then something is wrong with these new Sg's...
This is probably because of MJ's impact on the game. After him, it seemed like the SG position had a rather large jump in size across the board. There were still 6'6+ SG's before him, but not nearly as many as there are now.
Meanwhile, players that should be considered SG's have been "converted" into PG's because they lack size for the SG position. Rose and Westbrook are both big PG's that really could be considered SG's. Hell, they are as big or bigger than EJ, OJ, and Monta. Curry also came into the league with the skillset of a SG and has been "developed" into a PG.
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talk less, say more
Re: Is the SG position officially the weakest position now?
Yup. Isn't that incredible? Every team used to have a SG who could put up 20, even if it was Jason Richardson or Larry Hughes. Now there are almost none. The position is so sorry that guys like OJ Mayo are considered not only above-average, but borderline elite.
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LeBron GOAT
Re: Is the SG position officially the weakest position now?
Originally Posted by StateOfMind12
for like the past decade the SG position has usually been the strongest and the Center position has usually been the weakest, but seeing how much Kobe and Wade have declined these days made me wonder if the SG position is now officially the weakest position in the league these days.
Kobe decline? What have you been watching?
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Linja Status
Re: Is the SG position officially the weakest position now?
Shumpert will come along. Thompson will come along, tho he'd round out the bottom of the top 10, if he's top 10. Westbrook will eventually move to SG. I think Curry might end up there. Gordon will finally get on and climb the list this year. Paul George is a SF, out and out. Mayo will be top 10 by the end of the year. Crawford, we'll see. I'll always worry about his consistency. JR Smith might end up on this list. Afflalo will be close. Tyreke Evans and on.
The SF list is overrated, to be honest.
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Brooklyn
Re: Is the SG position officially the weakest position now?
Originally Posted by spiegel
Harden has pretty much dominated every shooting guard this season. He dominated Gordon last night and he dominated Kobe the night before
Except Gordon's team won.
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NBA Legend
Re: Is the SG position officially the weakest position now?
Originally Posted by LoneyROY7
Except Gordon's team won.
...with Gordon putting up 5 points on 2-12 shooting, 1 rebound, and 6 assists to 5 TO's. He didn't help his team. They won despite him.
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Re: Is the SG position officially the weakest position now?
Kobe is dropping 30+/5+/5/2 on amazing efficiency.
Harden is up to 26/5/4/2 on insane efficiency (61% TS!).
Wade is still a top 10 player.
It's not weak at all.
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Re: Is the SG position officially the weakest position now?
Originally Posted by LoneyROY7
Except Gordon's team won.
Areyou gonna tell me with a straight face Harden didnt outplay Gordon?. Harden ad 25 points on 9-18 shooting 7 assists 6 boards while ordon had 5 points on 2-11 shooting. Before you make a dumb comment like saying Harden was helped by the refs, he got to the line only 6 times. His season average is 11.
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Re: Is the SG position officially the weakest position now?
Originally Posted by Jacks3
Kobe is dropping 30+/5+/5/2 on amazing efficiency.
Harden is up to 26/5/4/2 on insane efficiency (61% TS!).
Wade is still a top 10 player.
It's not weak at all.
Outside those three, the drop off is pretty big.
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How I feel in ur head
Re: Is the SG position officially the weakest position now?
The C and SG positions are terrible ATM
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Roy Hibbert Super Star
Re: Is the SG position officially the weakest position now?
Paul George is going to be a 2 again in ~3 weeks. He's better than Joe Johnson.
I'm trying not to be a homer, but it's not just internet hype with Paul George anymore. He's an All Star caliber player now. The potential is actually being realized. 17/7.5/3.7 with a steal and a half a night and consistently very good defense. The guy's legit now.
Shooting too many 3s for my liking though.
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Linja Status
Re: Is the SG position officially the weakest position now?
Originally Posted by InspiredLebowski
Paul George is going to be a 2 again in ~3 weeks. He's better than Joe Johnson.
I'm trying not to be a homer, but it's not just internet hype with Paul George anymore. He's an All Star caliber player now. The potential is actually being realized. 17/7.5/3.7 with a steal and a half a night and consistently very good defense. The guy's legit now.
Shooting too many 3s for my liking though.
Granger gonna get traded. Better hope sooner, rather than later.
Get you some Gordon.
Everyone is better than Joe Johnson (who's also better as a 3).
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