who had the better team, 02' Wizards or 11' Mavs

[AlphaWolf24]

02' Wizards..

Michael Jordan (38 1/2)
Brian Cardinal
Brendan Haywood
Jerry Stackhouse
Larry Hughes
Juan Dixon
Jared Jefferies
Charles Oakley
Christian laetneer
Byron Russell
Bobby Simmons
Etan Thomas
Kwame Brown

11' Mavs..

Dirk Nowitzki (33)
Brian Cardinal
Brendan Haywood
Jason terry (33)
Shawn merion
Jose Barea
Deshawn Stevenson
Tyson Chandler
Jason Kidd (38)
Peja Stojakavic
Rodrique Bleoivic
Corey Brewer
Sasha Pavlovic

[guy]

Wow.

[AlphaWolf24]

Mavs easily. Jordan was still a pretty damn good player, but was no longer playing anywhere near GOAT level. Stackhouse and Hughes were solid, if flawed, players. No one else did anything particularly noteworthy. The Mavs had Dirk who is still playing at an elite level and a very well-rounded, if somewhat unspectacular, core. The Mavs didn't have as much firepower as the Lakers, Thunder or Heat, but were able to beat them all.

hmm.....Jordan's game was nearly identical to his 97 ' 98' game...to add he rested his body at least 3 years in his 30's giving him time to heal and play at a good level in his late 30's...

was he able to do things like 25 year old MJ?...of course not....but his ability was vastly underrated by his fans to make his 20PPG and 42fg% in the modern era seem like it was all due to him bieng too old.....when in fact it was due to modern defense bieng much more harder to score on...

MJ was a great athlete in peak shape year round...who rested his body many times in his career...37 - 38 year old Jordan was like a 33 - 35 year old modern player in todays era.


Wizards had much more playmakers and players who could create off the dribble for others....while the Mav's might have had a slight advantage inside it was minimal at best....

I think the 02' Wizards had better defensive minded players also.

[SCdac]

Let's not forget that Jason Kidd in his prime lead his team to back-to-back Finals appearances, and used to be a legit MVP candidate (him and T. Duncan were neck and neck in 2002 MVP race)...

could you say that particular kind of talent, leadership, and skill was in any of Jordan's teammates' past? Not talking presently, I'm saying, it's not like any of Jordan's teammates even used to be amazing, like some of Dirk's teammates were.

[guy]

hmm.....Jordan's game was nearly identical to his 97 ' 98' game...to add he rested his body at least 3 years in his 30's giving him time to heal and play at a good level in his late 30's...

He stopped using steroids after his 2nd retirement. Thats why he wasn't as good.

[AlphaWolf24]

Let's not forget that Jason Kidd in his prime lead his team to back-to-back Finals appearances, and used to be a legit MVP candidate (him and T. Duncan were neck and neck in 2002 MVP race)...

could you say that particular kind of talent, leadership, and skill was in any of Jordan's teammates' past? Not talking presently, I'm saying, it's not like any of Jordan's teammates even used to be amazing, like some of Dirk's teammates were.

Talent?...yes..Stack was a 25 - 30PPG 4and 4 player......Leadership?.....yes....

Oakley was one of the toughest players of his era....and a leader on every team he has played on.....

and by your theory..Michael Jordan had far more experience then a 33 year old Dirk...




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[AlphaWolf24]

Don't forget Shawn Marion and Peja Stojakovic, both former All-Stars.

Allstars..Stackhouse and Leatnner say HI.....all defensive First teammer larry Hughes says what's up!

[DirkNowitzki41]

02 Wizards had prime Brian Cardinal...

[AlphaWolf24]

This post is just all kinds of fail.

Irony much?

[AlphaWolf24]

02 Wizards had prime Brian Cardinal...

and 11' Mavs had prime 5'7" Barea with a injured Matrix followed by peak Deshawn still can't C me.

[All Net]

[MeLO MvP 15]

Obvs the team with the GOAT.... Jared Jefferies


but for real real, the Mavs

[AlphaWolf24]

Let me break each team down, player by player...


Michael Jordan- near what he was in 97' 98', still a very good player though, although he could actually be stopped at this point in his career much like early in his career when he lost to quiker players.
Brian Cardinal-Trash.
Brendan Haywood-Eh.
Jerry Stackhouse-Good, scorer in his prime exploded for 30 PPG.a solid -21 PPG guy.
Larry Hughes-Solid player stud defensive perimeter player.
Juan Dixon-actually led his college team to a NCAA Title...unlike some
Jared Jefferies-He was shit then, he's shit now, and he always will be shit.
Charles Oakley-Barely played and was a nonfactor at this point.
Christian laetneer-Bum.
Byron Russell-great for the Jazz, Jordan has said many times that BRuss is a greatdefender
Bobby Simmons-Barely played and was a nonfactor.
Etan Thomas-Shit.
Kwame Brown-Shit.


Dirk Nowitzki-Great shooter with lackluster defense....before 11' was an epic choker until he manned up and worked insanly in the 10' offseason to become a better allaround player.
Brian Cardinal-Still trash.
Brendan Haywood-ol' garbage
Jason terry-Great 6th man in the mid 00's..but at 33 is just a spot up shooter, but not an ideal starter due to being undersized and a poor defender.
Shawn Marion-Nowhere the stud he was in Phoenix, hurt hamstring and was slower latterally, but ideally would come off the bench behind Caron Butler.
Jose Barea-at 5'7" forced LBJ to shoot fallaway J's
Deshawn Stevenson-Horrible offensive player, good defender. Meh.
Tyson Chandler-Solid center, very good defensive anchor.No threat anywhere beyond 3' from the basket
Jason Kidd-No longer an MVP candidate, he's still good at running an offense, but can't be counted on to score much anymore.
Peja Stojakavic-Nowhere near what he once was, reduced to being a spot shooter off the bench.
Rodrique Beaubois-Young player who should improve, was injured for the playoffs.
Corey Brewer-Defensive minded player, was hardly used in the playoffs.
Sasha Pavlovic-Played 10 games for them in the regular season and was traded to Celtics. LOL @ you including him to make the Mavericks look worse.

Fixed.........Wiz>Mav's..on paper

[AlphaWolf24]

Stackhouse had one season above 25 PPG. One. And he shotjacked a ridiculous amount to do it. Oakley scored 1.8 points per game on the Wizards. GTFO

Stackhouse>any player on the Mavs not named Dirk....GTFO with yo BS...

Stack was a Muf@cin beast in his heyday....

Leattner 8PPG and 8REB..... ....Tyson da Gawd 10PPG 9REB

@ stans acting like the 11' Mavs are so much better.




oh yeah......Doug Collins> Ricky

[MasterDurant24]

The team that swept the reigning champs and beat a team that had two of the top 3 players in the leauge to take the championship. Easy choice.