Jordan CLEARLY had less help in 1998 Finals than Lebron's current team

[3ball]

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Pippen:[COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR] 15.0 PPG
Kukoc:[COLOR="White"]....[/COLOR]15.0 PPG
Harper:[COLOR="White"]...[/COLOR]5.3 PPG
Longley:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 5.0 PPG
Kerr:[COLOR="white"].....[/COLOR] 3.8 PPG


Mosgov:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 13.4 PPG
Smith:[COLOR="White"]...[/COLOR] 10.0 PPG
Tristan:[COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR] 9.0 PPG, 13.0 RPG
M Della:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 8.8 PPG
Shump:[COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR] 6.2 PPG


In case you're wondering, Rodman averaged 3 PPG and 8 RPG in the 1998 Finals, so he didn't make the list..

Rodman averaged the same stats for the ENTIRE 1997 playoffs as well, including the Finals - MJ's help in 1997 was actually just as weak as his help in 1998.. Keep in mind, the 1998 Utah Jazz had a lower playoff DRtg than anything Lebron ever faced in the Finals.

Also, MJ averaged 10.6 and 10.3 points in the 4th quarter of the 1997 and 1998 Finals, respectively, good for 3rd and 4th all time, according to the Elias Sports Bureau.. I guess it's no surprise that the MJ was forced to produce so much in the 4th against such a great team, in such close games, and with such a horrible cast.
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[JerrySeinfeld]

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[Levity]

3ball, my man. whats up with all these painfully repetitive threads? are you trying to prove to yourself what youre saying is true? or to the other posters on this site? either way, no one cares.

[StephHamann]

In today's game, the paint is empty with zero defenders.. Defenders must guard weakside 3-pointers, so they must position themselves on the far weakside BEHIND the paint, and furthest from helping on the strongside:






In previous eras, the paint was NEVER empty with zero defenders - defenders didn't have to guard weakside 3-pointers, so all defenders remained on the strongside and/or in the paint, and therefore closest to help on strongside action:





Being closer to help is the ultimate effect of no-spacing.. Whereas spacing makes defenders help from further away, so they are late, rather than waiting.

Btw, even though Lebron enjoys strongside clearouts where all help defenders are furthest away from the strongside as possible, Lebron is only shooting 32.5% on isolations in these playoffs.. Lebron's low isolation efficiency is destroying his overall FG% in these playoffs, since isolations are the thing he does most often - he isolates on 33.5% of his possessions, #1 in the league!

[LBJMVP]

could you also put up the points per game of the utah jazz team members as well

[Kvnzhangyay]

In today's game, the paint is empty with zero defenders.. Defenders must guard weakside 3-pointers, so they must position themselves on the far weakside BEHIND the paint, and furthest from helping on the strongside:






In previous eras, the paint was NEVER empty with zero defenders - defenders didn't have to guard weakside 3-pointers, so all defenders remained on the strongside and/or in the paint, and therefore closest to help on strongside action:





Being closer to help is the ultimate effect of no-spacing.. Whereas spacing makes defenders help from further away, so they are late, rather than waiting.

Btw, even though Lebron enjoys strongside clearouts where all help defenders are furthest away from the strongside as possible, Lebron is only shooting 32.5% on isolations in these playoffs.. Lebron's low isolation efficiency is destroying his overall FG% in these playoffs, since isolations are the thing he does most often - he isolates on 33.5% of his possessions, #1 in the league!

In today's game, the paint is empty with zero defenders.. Defenders must guard weakside 3-pointers, so they must position themselves on the far weakside BEHIND the paint, and furthest from helping on the strongside:






In previous eras, the paint was NEVER empty with zero defenders - defenders didn't have to guard weakside 3-pointers, so all defenders remained on the strongside and/or in the paint, and therefore closest to help on strongside action:





Being closer to help is the ultimate effect of no-spacing.. Whereas spacing makes defenders help from further away, so they are late, rather than waiting.

Btw, even though Lebron enjoys strongside clearouts where all help defenders are furthest away from the strongside as possible, Lebron is only shooting 32.5% on isolations in these playoffs.. Lebron's low isolation efficiency is destroying his overall FG% in these playoffs, since isolations are the thing he does most often - he isolates on 33.5% of his possessions, #1 in the league!

[KiiiiNG]

3ball, my man. whats up with all these painfully repetitive threads? are you trying to prove to yourself what youre saying is true? or to the other posters on this site? either way, no one cares.

[Euroleague]

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Pippen:[COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR] 15.0 PPG
Kukoc:[COLOR="White"]....[/COLOR]15.0 PPG
Harper:[COLOR="White"]...[/COLOR]5.3 PPG
Longley:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 5.0 PPG
Kerr:[COLOR="white"].....[/COLOR] 3.8 PPG


Mosgov:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 13.4 PPG
Smith:[COLOR="White"]...[/COLOR] 10.0 PPG
Tristan:[COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR] 9.0 PPG, 13.0 RPG
M Della:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 8.8 PPG
Shump:[COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR] 6.2 PPG


In case you're wondering, Rodman averaged 3 PPG and 8 RPG in the 1998 Finals, so he didn't make the list..

Rodman averaged the same stats for the ENTIRE 1997 playoffs as well, including the Finals - MJ's help in 1997 was actually just as weak as his help in 1998.. Keep in mind, the 1998 Utah Jazz had a lower playoff DRtg than anything Lebron ever faced in the Finals.

Also, MJ averaged 10.6 and 10.3 points in the 4th quarter of the 1997 and 1998 Finals, respectively, good for 3rd and 4th all time, according to the Elias Sports Bureau.. I guess it's no surprise that the MJ was forced to produce so much in the 4th against such a great team, in such close games, and with such a horrible cast.
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PUT DOWN THE CRACK PIPE

[Rocketswin2013]

In today's game, the paint is empty with zero defenders.. Defenders must guard weakside 3-pointers, so they must position themselves on the far weakside BEHIND the paint, and furthest from helping on the strongside:






In previous eras, the paint was NEVER empty with zero defenders - defenders didn't have to guard weakside 3-pointers, so all defenders remained on the strongside and/or in the paint, and therefore closest to help on strongside action:





Being closer to help is the ultimate effect of no-spacing.. Whereas spacing makes defenders help from further away, so they are late, rather than waiting.

Btw, even though Lebron enjoys strongside clearouts where all help defenders are furthest away from the strongside as possible, Lebron is only shooting 32.5% on isolations in these playoffs.. Lebron's low isolation efficiency is destroying his overall FG% in these playoffs, since isolations are the thing he does most often - he isolates on 33.5% of his possessions, #1 in the league!

[Kvnzhangyay]

This thread has to be a joke

[sd3035]

Lebald has a stacked team and only faces ISOs with mediocre defenders compared to Jordan's era

It's mind boggling that he can't shoot 40%

[oarabbus]

Holy shit, LeBron would kill to have Pippen and Kukoc on this team.

That Bulls team is WAY better than the Cavs

[J Shuttlesworth]

Holy shit, LeBron would kill to have Pippen and Kukoc on this team.

That Bulls team is WAY better than the Cavs

He totally left out Rodman too

Pippen put up 16/7/5 in those finals. Nobody on the Cavs team comes close to that, especially considering Pippen is the GOAT perimeter defender

[ralph_i_el]

In today's game, the paint is empty with zero defenders.. Defenders must guard weakside 3-pointers, so they must position themselves on the far weakside BEHIND the paint, and furthest from helping on the strongside:






In previous eras, the paint was NEVER empty with zero defenders - defenders didn't have to guard weakside 3-pointers, so all defenders remained on the strongside and/or in the paint, and therefore closest to help on strongside action:





Being closer to help is the ultimate effect of no-spacing.. Whereas spacing makes defenders help from further away, so they are late, rather than waiting.

Btw, even though Lebron enjoys strongside clearouts where all help defenders are furthest away from the strongside as possible, Lebron is only shooting 32.5% on isolations in these playoffs.. Lebron's low isolation efficiency is destroying his overall FG% in these playoffs, since isolations are the thing he does most often - he isolates on 33.5% of his possessions, #1 in the league!
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[3ball]

He totally left out Rodman too

Rodman averaged 3 PPG and 8 RPG in the 1998 Finals, so he didn't make the list..

Rodman averaged the same stats for the ENTIRE 1997 playoffs as well, including the Finals - MJ's help in 1997 was actually just as weak as his help in 1998.. Keep in mind, the 1998 Utah Jazz had a lower playoff DRtg than anything Lebron ever faced in the Finals.

Also, MJ averaged 10.6 and 10.3 points in the 4th quarter of the 1997 and 1998 Finals, respectively, good for 3rd and 4th all time, according to the Elias Sports Bureau.. I guess it's no surprise that the MJ was forced to produce so much in the 4th against such a great team, in such close games, and with such a horrible cast.
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