wade and kyrie - who had better playmaking help than this?

[3ball]

and how could anyone ask for more playmaking help despite having these guys?

that would be ridiculous... why should anyone deserve more playmaking help than everyone else in the league?

[Uncle Drew]

Playmaker Kyrie, where teams FLOURISH in his absence.

[LAmbruh]

Playmaker Kyrie, where teams FLOURISH in his absence.

this

teams are FLOURISHING without Kyrie

[SpaceJam]

Playmaker Kyrie, where teams FLOURISH in his absence.

Yep, shuts down that theory

[3ball]

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teams are FLOURISHING without Kyrie

teams flourishing or not flourishing with Kyrie at #1 option has nothing to do with the OP (whether he's good help)

Kyrie is better playmaking help than anyone else had - that's the point

yet lebron asked for MORE playmaking help and then got personal with Barkley (like a female b.itch) when he got called on it

[LAmbruh]

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[3ball]

I can't refute the point being made.. indeed, OP is right and Lebron is a cheating/colluding b.itch

so I'll just say something irrelevant and act autistic rather than attempt to refute his stone cold, lead pipe of a lock argument

damn bro, I appreciate the honesty

[SpaceJam]

teams flourishing or not flourishing with Kyrie at #1 option has nothing to do with the OP (whether he's good help)

Kyrie is better playmaking help than anyone else had - that's the point

yet lebron asked for MORE playmaking help and then got personal with Barkley (like a female b.itch) when he got called on it

By anyone else, what would you mean? In the league that year? All time?

[SpaceJam2]

and how could anyone ask for more playmaking help despite having these guys?

that would be ridiculous... why should anyone deserve more playmaking help than everyone else in the league?

Ya know, 90s milkmen put up 10 ppg as a #2 in the Finals but that doesn't cut it these days.

Translation: Modern era players are incredibly skilled and difficult, thus require more to be beaten.

[Gil Renard]

Ya know, 90s milkmen put up 10 ppg as a #2 in the Finals but that doesn't cut it these days.

Translation: Modern era players are incredibly skilled and difficult, thus require more to be beaten.

This is true. Jordan had Pippen to bail him out against historically weak competition in the 90

[Ainosterhaspie]

Kyrie is not a playmaker, he's an iso specialist. Wade is significantly better in that role, but he's also better suited for getting his than running an offended.

[MaxPlayer]

Lebron without Kyrie: 115 Career Playoff Wins
Jordan without Pippen: 1 Career Playoff Win

[STATUTORY]

Lebron has played with 13 50 point scorers over his career

let that sink in

[MaxPlayer]

Lebron has played with 13 50 point scorers over his career

let that sink in

GOAT playmaker confirmed

[SpaceJam2]

This is true. Jordan had Pippen to bail him out against historically weak competition in the 90’s expansion era...and he still had to beg Rodman and Kukoc to come join forces to stack the deck even more...weak.

You're absolutely correct. And the crazy part is that's only one side of the competition; the team he played with. When you start to look at the team he played against, it's even more comical. Not once did he ever play against a great team.

MJ's career

Teams played with: stacked, all nba defenders every year

Teams played against: Historically weak, worst number two option in finals history

Conclusion: Once Jordan had Scottie Pippen he always had the advantage and never faced a deficit.