Rate the following people in terms of actually existing

[Dresta]

Your post carried the implication that Jesus was not a prominent figure in the early years of Christianity, which is simply not true.

I'm not moving any goalposts, you evidently just said something you didn't quite mean.

"No one wrote..."

What else could that mean exactly?

[LJJ]

Your post carried the implication that Jesus was not a prominent figure in the early years of Christianity, which is simply not true.

I'm not moving any goalposts, you evidently just said something you didn't quite mean.

"No one wrote..."

What else could that mean exactly?

I meant Jesus starts become a known figure outside of Christianity many years after his death, but that it doesn't really make sense to think that Christians would make up Jesus even if there are no direct sources.


I guess you forgot to read the beginning "there are many sources for Jesus outside of Christianity", which was what I was refuting.

[KevinNYC]

I wonder if there are people on ISH who believe Jesus Christ is the son of a mystical tyrant named god and turned wine into water and shit. And that if he even existed at all he was white and not brown skinned and didn't have a mother who lied about screwing around with the town blacksmith to avoid being stoned to death in the barbaric ancient middle east

Every time you post like this Wilt drops further out of my top ten.

Thurmond drops out of my top 50.

[SexSymbol]

Odin no
Achilles maybe
Jesus Christ maybe
Goliath no
Zeus no
King Arthur maybe?
Thor no
Horus no
Beowulf no
Ragnar Lothbrok no

[imdaman99]

Man when the hell is Vikings coming back? I miss me some Ragnar Lothbrook

[DeuceWallaces]

Jesus is the most certain.

After that Arthur and Ragnar could be loosely based on someone, but there's little to no evidence.

[embersyc]

All of them really existed and all mythologies are completely true.

[senelcoolidge]

Your post makes you come off pretty ignorant and with blinders on. Cultural baggage has bettered you in this instance

Sounds like someone that is bitter. An atheist that has to badmouth and demean others is a sad sad little person. You don't believe in god than that's your deal, don't bully others.

[Town's Town]

What about Batman?

[ROCSteady]

Sounds like someone that is bitter. An atheist that has to badmouth and demean others is a sad sad little person. You don't believe in god than that's your deal, don't bully others.

are u even talking about?

Go back and see the conversation in its proper context.

CavaliersFTW made a typical internet, "Show me Proof, Bible is fictional" post so the cultural baggage I was referring to was the jollies that ppl like to get off by thinking believers in The Bible or Jesus Christ as dumb or naive.

I really didn't take a stance either way saying 1.) Jesus was certainly an actual being on Earth to whatever capacity 2.) Comparing a figure like him, who is cross-referenced in historical documents to Zeus, the Greek version of the 'Bearded Sky Wizard' that smart internet dwellers like to poke fun at, is absurd and finally 3.) I do not claim with any conviction that Jesus is the son of the Father God

It's obvious you did not understand the exchange. You probably saw the 'cultural baggage' phrase and I thought I was putting down believers when in reality, I was referring to the other side of the spectrum; i.e. the ones who dismiss any fair conversation about divine Jesus because they automatically want to feel smarter or more educated or more practical than the ppl with faith