Curry's current season equals either of Nash's MVP seasons

[24-Inch_Chrome]

In my opinion Curry is a deserving candidate, but Harden is making too much noise for there to be a clear cut favorite either way. Curry is putting up great numbers on an elite shooting line on the league's best team, but Harden is carrying Houston into the playoffs while also posting a great individual line. Neither sparked the same kind of team turnaround that Nash did, but they both still have great cases on the season as far as skill and value.

It can be difficult to gauge value, and while I think Harden is probably the favorite right now it could go either way at the end of the season.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Steve Nash is a top-5 all-time PG and is the greatest shooter in NBA history.


The End.

FTFY.

[J Shuttlesworth]

In my opinion Curry is a deserving candidate, but Harden is making too much noise for there to be a clear cut favorite either way. Curry is putting up great numbers on an elite shooting line on the league's best team, but Harden is carrying Houston into the playoffs while also posting a great individual line. Neither sparked the same kind of team turnaround that Nash did, but they both still have great cases on the season as far as skill and value.

It can be difficult to gauge value, and while I think Harden is probably the favorite right now it could go either way at the end of the season.

I think Harden should be the MVP but Curry will ultimately win it because I think the media likes him more.

It's close enough to where I don't mind either player winning though.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

I think Harden should be the MVP but Curry will ultimately win it because I think the media likes him more.

It's close enough to where I don't mind either player winning though.

Agreed. I think I would give Harden a slight edge over Curry, but both are fully deserving candidates for the award.

Even though the season is winding down a lot could still change, I think it'll be affected by whoever finishes stronger. Curry is probably going to be played less in preparation for the playoffs but Harden won't have that luxury if Houston wants to secure home court advantage for the first round. No matter who wins there shouldn't be any issues over their credibility.

[warriorfan]

I think the greatest shooter in the game maxed out at 18 ppg on a historically fast paced team

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Shooter, not scorer. Reading comprehension please.

[ArbitraryWater]

Curry averages 8 more points and only 3 less assist

easily MVP

the simplicity of basketball to Kobe fans :)

Steve's impact isn't one to be gauged by raw box score stats.

He made historically great offenses ('06 without Stoudemire), overall, PG stats can be taken with a grain of salt as far as I'm concerned.

[TheMarkMadsen]

I see that AW is the last person to post in this thread and i'd be willing to bet my account that he's either a) quoting me from pages back or b) bringing up Kobe

edit: what do you know

[warriorfan]

the simplicity of basketball to Kobe fans :)

Steve's impact isn't one to be gauged by raw box score stats.

He made historically great offenses ('06 without Stoudemire), overall, PG stats can be taken with a grain of salt as far as I'm concerned.

05'
http://stats-for-the-nba.appspot.com/ratings/2005.html


06'
http://stats-for-the-nba.appspot.com/ratings/2006.html

[24-Inch_Chrome]

05'
http://stats-for-the-nba.appspot.com/ratings/2005.html


06'
http://stats-for-the-nba.appspot.com/ratings/2006.html

In 2005 Phoenix led the league in ORTG and PPG.

In 2006 Phoenix posted the second best ORTG in the league (missed out on first by 0.3) and led the league in PPG (despite Stoudemire playing only 3 games).

If we're talking solely about offensive impact (which we are), the results are clear. Even in the links that you posted, did anyone beat Nash's offense/100 in either year?

[rhowen4]

No, I don't think curry is doing as much as nash did.

[Prime_Shaq]

2-6 without Nash in 2004-2005

0-3 without Nash in 2005-2006

2-4 without Nash in 2006-2007

0-1 without Nash in 2007-2008

5-4 without Nash in 2008-2009

1-0 without Nash in 2009-2010

1-7 without Nash in 2010-2011

1-4 without Nash in 2011-2012

12-29 without Nash during his stint in PHX

GSW 0-2 without Curry. 0% Winrate.

[warriorfan]

In 2005 Phoenix led the league in ORTG and PPG.

In 2006 Phoenix posted the second best ORTG in the league (missed out on first by 0.3) and led the league in PPG (despite Stoudemire playing only 3 games).

If we're talking solely about offensive impact (which we are), the results are clear. Even in the links that you posted, did anyone beat Nash's offense/100 in either year?

What about this little thing that some people like to call....defense?

[24-Inch_Chrome]

What about this little thing that some people like to call....defense?

When did anyone ever call Nash a great defender? Those Phoenix squads were offense first, and they did it exceptionally.

You posted those links in response to AW discussing his offensive contributions as they showed up beyond box stats....which they did in those RAPM stats. He led the league in offense/100, which shows that his offensive impact did go beyond the box scores, to the point where he was contributing more offense based on that metric than anyone else in league as far as impact. Thanks for proving his point.

[DatAsh]

the simplicity of basketball to Kobe fans :)

Steve's impact isn't one to be gauged by raw box score stats.

He made historically great offenses ('06 without Stoudemire), overall, PG stats can be taken with a grain of salt as far as I'm concerned.

This.

MVP Nash was incredible. One of the best offensive players ever.