If Dirk isn't above KG in your all-time list right now....

[Joey3000]

I give Dirk a slight edge on offense, but would not be mad if someone told me that KG is just as good on offense.

However, KG's Defense is what puts him clearly a notch above Dirk. Dude can dominate a game on both ends. While dirk is often a liability on defense.

KG has been an anchor on defense for his entire carear and has even helped his teammates to step their defensive game up.

To say Dirk is better is outrageous.

[raiderfan19]

To say kg is as good on offense is.... Foolish at best. You could single cover prime kg.

[Joey3000]

To say kg is as good on offense is.... Foolish at best. You could single cover prime kg.

Who could single cover prime KG?

Kg is better than Dirk in the post, very good at close to midrange and doesnt need to shoot the 3 cuz he is not a SF or sg.

Now tell me how many positions Dirk could cover? He cant even gaurd his own position. SMH I like Dirk, but he is not fit to tie KG's shoes.

[raiderfan19]

As to the answer of this question, nothing dirk does will put him above kg in kg fans eyes and there is a perfectly logical explanation for picking kg over dirk. If you rated everything in basketball on a numerical scale and averaged it out, kg would have a higher average than dirk. Thats not exactly how they verbalize it, but thats why kg fans rank him higher. At his age, dirk isnt going to become a more all around player.

My counter argument would be that a dominant and efficient scorer is more valuable as your go to guy then an all around guy that can be single covered but thats an opinion thing which can be debated. Dirks already had more team success and i dont see him being better than he already is, so like i said i dont see him passong kg on anyones list if he isnt already ahead of him

[raiderfan19]

Who could single cover prime KG?

Kg is better than Dirk in the post, very good at close to midrange and doesnt need to shoot the 3 cuz he is not a SF or sg.

Now tell me how many positions Dirk could cover? He cant even gaurd his own position. SMH I like Dirk, but he is not fit to tie KG's shoes.

Dirks postgame the last 2-3 years is better than kgs ever was

[Joey3000]

Dirks postgame the last 2-3 years is better than kgs ever was

Don't make me laugh.

And even if that was the case... The only thing that is not arguable in this debate is that Prime KG's defense alone is enough to make him better than Dirk. Dirk didnt even have average defense. He didnt even have acceptable defense.

There was not average or below average about KG's game in any category.

[D.J.]

Dirk's D is really being underestimated. He was far from being elite, but it wasn't nearly as bad as some make it out to be.

[Joey3000]

Dirk's D is really being underestimated. He was far from being elite, but it wasn't nearly as bad as some make it out to be.

Name me some of the starting PF's in the league whom u think dirk is better than on defense.

[RRR3]

I am so SICK of people acting like KG is a mediocore scorer to prop up Dirk.

KG Age 22-31 (prime) scoring:
1998-99: 21 PPG. 22 PPG in 4 playoff games.
1999-00: 23 PPG. 19 PPG in 4 playoff games.
2000-01: 22 PPG. 21 PPG in 5 playoff games.
2001-02: 21 PPG. 24 PPG in 3 playoff games.
2002-03: 23 PPG. 27 PPG in 6 playoff games.
2003-04: 24 PPG. 24 PPG in 18 playoff games.
2004-05: 22 PPG
2005-06: 22 PPG
2006-07: 22 PPG
2007-08: 19 PPG (in 33 MPG). 20 PPG in 26 playoff games.

Dirk is a better scorer than KG, we all know that, but to act like KG was nowhere close is pure revisionist history. There were years when they were both in their primes when KG actually outscored Dirk. Dirk has a scoring advantage, to be sure, but KG had an advantage in passing and playmaking, rebounding and an enormous advantage in defense. KG is and always has been the better player overall. In b4 DMAVS says defense isn't important.

[raiderfan19]

Name me some of the starting PF's in the league whom u think dirk is better than on defense.

Jamison, shard lewis, David lee(unless we are calling him a center), frye, blake griffin, rac randolph among others

[RRR3]

Jamison, shard lewis, David lee(unless we are calling him a center), frye, blake griffin, rac randolph among others

Rashard Lewis plays SF for the Wizards.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Are we ignoring the defensive side of the ball now? KG kills Dirk in that department and it's not even about stats or awards. It's about the impact they have on a game. Dirk isn't in KG's stratosphere on that end of the court.

Seriously, that's massively important. Nowitzki had a phenomenal postseason run but it doesn't trump one guy being an average-or-worse defender his entire career while the other is one of the greatest defenders in the history of the game.

[D.J.]

Dirk gets a slight edge in offense. Very slight. Both were putting up similar points on nearly identical field goal attempts.

[Bigsmoke]

who cares?

Good Kid in a Mad City is what i only care about at the moment.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

K.Dot better than both

kd > prime kg? no way...