Bernie "Magic Man" Sanders quickly converts a voter over to Socialism

[Patrick Chewing]

It's like he's a magician. This clip is fascinating.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1p-HInvodas


This is so obvious a Bernie plant it's pathetic. Look how quickly he converts this guy after his double-talk into paying more taxes.

[UK2K]

It's like he's a magician. This clip is fascinating.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1p-HInvodas


This is so obvious a Bernie plant it's pathetic. Look how quickly he converts this guy after his double-talk.

Any idea that puts more power in the hands of the government is a stupid idea. And if you're for that sort of thing, you're stupid as well.

We give out hundreds of billions of dollars every year in fraudulent tax returns, in some cases, where hundreds of returns are sent to the same residence. How does the IRS not catch that? 1200 tax returns to the same place, and you don't find that odd? There's not a system that says 'this doesn't look right'? The IRS is no longer accepting e-files on your taxes because they've been hit with so many fraudulent claims. And why not? It's so easy to get a fraudulent tax return from the IRS, people are making millions off it EVERY SINGLE YEAR.

The government has destroyed social security. They couldn't even run the mother ****ing post office correctly.

I see example after example of something in government going horribly wrong and you sit back and say, are you that incompetent? The answer is yes, the government is that incompetent. We don't even know what our tax dollars are spent on because the government won't allow us to.

Yeah, they've ****ed up everything else, let's let them **** up healthcare too. Hint hint: They already have.

[Im Still Ballin]

He's a hit with the young and naive emotionally charged youth of today. Acting like they went 10 rounds with Foreman but they never even stepped in the ring.

[Patrick Chewing]

LOL I just started talking to one of my employees about what he said and she almost quit on me just now.

She's 21 years old and is a fervent Bernie supporter, but of course, she hasn't seen one debate, not one Town Hall, not one single solitary commercial on Bernie.

She literally just said to me, "I will gladly pay more taxes for the better good of society".

[Long Duck Dong]

This hack would make great infomercials.

"Your health care is normally $300 month but if you elect me you can have it for a price so low I CAN'T EVEN SAY IT ON THE AIR"

[bladefd]

Clearly you guys don't know the premiums and copay people pay annually. Hint: it is big sums of money bigger than the tax increases Sanders has brought up.

The Republicans want things to be the way before obamacare - did you know people were getting denied for preexisting conditions? Think were out of control with greedy insurance companies screwing people over as they wanted to. Why the hell would anyone support what we had before? You realize not everyone has great insurance through high paying jobs? The Republicans don't seem to comprehend that. Obamacare is an upgrade over what we had before.

Bernie/Hillary want to improve on it further. By the way, Bernie has progressive tax system so it is not as if everyone's taxes would rise. Only beyond the first 250k earnings do taxes seriously hike up. Average income tax is the lowest it has been since early 1900s before ww1 so relax.

[Godzuki]

considering he's probably paying next to nothing making $41k with Obamacare now for health insurance for his family he's getting screwed over having to pay $500 under Bernie Panders

[UK2K]

Clearly you guys don't know the premiums and copay people pay annually. Hint: it is big sums of money bigger than the tax increases Sanders has brought up.

The Republicans want things to be the way before obamacare - did you know people were getting denied for preexisting conditions? Think were out of control with greedy insurance companies screwing people over as they wanted to. Why the hell would anyone support what we had before? You realize not everyone has great insurance through high paying jobs? The Republicans don't seem to comprehend that. Obamacare is an upgrade over what we had before.

Bernie/Hillary want to improve on it further. By the way, Bernie has progressive tax system so it is not as if everyone's taxes would rise. Only beyond the first 250k earnings do taxes seriously hike up. Average income tax is the lowest it has been since early 1900s before ww1 so relax.

Totally hypothetical question but...

What has the government done to make you think that this initiative will be run smoothly, given their track record of destroying, fumbling, mismanaging, and more or less ****ing up everything they touch?

This time it's going to be different or... what?

Personally I'd rather go back to the old way, and if the poor don't have the funds to cover their hospital bills, I'm sure many compassionate, loving leftists millionaires would be more than happy to cover the cost, right? Cause they're so caring and giving and are one with the people and all. In fact, they give off the vibe they'd be more than happy to cover the cost, so why not take them up on it?

[Norcaliblunt]

The military is proof the government can run things smoothly. I mean come on you guys the internet came from the military. Government is da bess.

[BoutPractice]

Were Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford socialists?

Because the top income tax rate in 1976 was 70%.

The top rate on capital gains tax was 39%.

The top rate on corporate tax was 48%.

They may not have chosen those tax rates if it had been up to them, but they didn't do much to change them either...

Now can you imagine anyone today proposing tax increases that get us to Gerald Ford level without being branded a socialist or worse?

Think about it: Sanders the Red, even if he got into the White House and got most of what he wanted in terms of legislation (which is very unrealistic) wouldn't be able to get taxes to where they were in the era of Gerald Ford, who called himself a fiscal conservative.

In the 70s, "socialist" wasn't just an insult, it was practically an accusation of treason... And yet an actual socialist today is proposing policies that wouldn't have shocked the 1970s establishment.

Realistically, Sanders with a Democratic majority probably gets us close to where we were in the middle of the Reagan era, at best.

Once you have just a tiny bit of historical perspective, you realize that Sanders really isn't as radical as people make him out to be.

Reagan era tax rates + universal health care which is the case in most developed countries (and has been supported by both left and right everywhere outside the US) + a return to something like Glass Steagall, which was still legislation during the Reagan and Clinton Years + getting big money out of political campaigns (or at the very least to pre 2010 levels)... if that's completely outside of the mainstream, then the problem lies with the mainstream, not with Sanders.

[UK2K]

The military is proof the government can run things smoothly. I mean come on you guys the internet came from the military. Government is da bess.

Except our naval dentist filled by cavities with black fillings. Black.

And the best part, they didn't fill them correctly, so when I went back to the dentist about two years ago, they had to pull them out because cavities had formed UNDER the black fillings put in by the navy.

Imagine that, except... open heart surgery.

[Norcaliblunt]

Damn I'm sorry you are not educated on how to remineralize your teeth through nutrition. **** da government it's their fault.

[StephHamann]

It's like he's a magician. This clip is fascinating.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1p-HInvodas


This is so obvious a Bernie plant it's pathetic. Look how quickly he converts this guy after his double-talk into paying more taxes.

[9erempiree]

He's a socialist.

The week leading to the Iowa caucus somebody stuff my mailbox with a Bernie Sanders flyer. I was quite pretty piss because we've had a string of mail theft in the area.....

Anyways, I read it and one of the things he claim to be is....

Democratic Socialist.

[NumberSix]

Clearly you guys don't know the premiums and copay people pay annually. Hint: it is big sums of money bigger than the tax increases Sanders has brought up.

The Republicans want things to be the way before obamacare - did you know people were getting denied for preexisting conditions? Think were out of control with greedy insurance companies screwing people over as they wanted to. Why the hell would anyone support what we had before? You realize not everyone has great insurance through high paying jobs? The Republicans don't seem to comprehend that. Obamacare is an upgrade over what we had before.

Bernie/Hillary want to improve on it further. By the way, Bernie has progressive tax system so it is not as if everyone's taxes would rise. Only beyond the first 250k earnings do taxes seriously hike up. Average income tax is the lowest it has been since early 1900s before ww1 so relax.

Did you know you can't buy car insurance for a car that you've already totalled?

To be fair though. Cars should be free, along with health care and college.