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Re: Blake Griffin vs Kevin Durant vs Derrick Rose
Originally Posted by Willkill24
no Allen Iverson is top 5 player of all time.
No he's not he's overrated as **** Jennings will be better.
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Re: Blake Griffin vs Kevin Durant vs Derrick Rose
Originally Posted by Ikill
do you really think that
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Re: Blake Griffin vs Kevin Durant vs Derrick Rose
Originally Posted by 8BeastlyXOIAD
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Re: Blake Griffin vs Kevin Durant vs Derrick Rose
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Re: Blake Griffin vs Kevin Durant vs Derrick Rose
Originally Posted by YouCallILose
Griffin will never be a top 5 player in the league. He is Shawn Kemp 2.0 or Amare minus a jumpshot/free throw shooting with better rebounding.
Durant is clearly the best of these 3 and this thread is a joke
Amare didn't have a jump shot in his rookie year either not only that Griffin is a way better rebounder he's already one of the best in the NBA i could see him averaging 15 a game. Griffin is a better passer, ball handler, is stronger, and plays so much harder than Amare. You don't think a player averaging 21 and 12 in his rookie year will be a top 5 player.
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Re: Blake Griffin vs Kevin Durant vs Derrick Rose
Originally Posted by YouCallILose
Griffin will never be a top 5 player in the league. He is Shawn Kemp 2.0 or Amare minus a jumpshot/free throw shooting with better rebounding.
Durant is clearly the best of these 3 and this thread is a joke
I agree that neither will be as good as Durant, though I haven't seen much of Rose this year.
Blake's scoring and rebounding numbers are nice, but he'll have to learn to block more than half a shot per game and make an impact defensively before I'll consider him elite because I don't see him being a good enough scorer to be top 5 on just that and rebounding.
Originally Posted by Ikill
Dwight Howard might be a top 3 player but theres a good chance Griffin Rose and Durant are better than him he also depends on his athleticism a lot.
Where will Dwight's athleticism have gone in 3-4 years? The guy is extremely durable and he's in great shape. He'll still have a huge athletic advantage over just about any big man barring a major injury.
Plus, Dwight seems to have improved his skills a lot this season, give him a few more years and he could be even better. He's still only 25, most players peak around 27-28, sometimes a bit later.
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Re: Blake Griffin vs Kevin Durant vs Derrick Rose
It's the body control that makes Blake Griffin so amazing. People shouldn't compare him to anyone, because nobody at that size and athleticism has ever been able to control their body so well. Blake can do spinning reverse dunks and he's 250 pounds. Shawn Kemp can't touch this guys athletcism. He had the hops and the power but not the agility.
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Re: Blake Griffin vs Kevin Durant vs Derrick Rose
Originally Posted by ShaqAttack3234
I agree that neither will be as good as Durant, though I haven't seen much of Rose this year.
Blake's scoring and rebounding numbers are nice, but he'll have to learn to block more than half a shot per game and make an impact defensively before I'll consider him elite because I don't see him being a good enough scorer to be top 5 on just that and rebounding.
its his first 20 games. durants in his 4th season and his defense is still pretty terrible at times, and yet he's already putting up as good or better numbers.
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Re: Blake Griffin vs Kevin Durant vs Derrick Rose
Blake Griffin is extremely hard to score on. His defense is not something I would criticize just because he's not getting blocks.
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Re: Blake Griffin vs Kevin Durant vs Derrick Rose
Originally Posted by Svendiggity
Blake Griffin is extremely hard to score on. His defense is not something I would criticize just because he's not getting blocks.
His defense is better than statistics suggest, I agree. He's leading that team in defensive win shares right now. But that team is also allowing 104+ points a game, which is obviously not good... But people need not forget that blocks aren't everything, even PF's like Barkley and Malone were not really big-time shot blockers. Karl Malone in his MVP seasons averaged 0.6 BPG, and Barkley averaged just 1.0 BPG in his. Griffin needs to improve on playing the passing lanes though, disrupt more passes into the post. From what I've seen from him (assuming he continues to improve, gains experience), he could be more valuable than both Durant and Rose, IMO. And I'm a big Durant fan.
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Re: Blake Griffin vs Kevin Durant vs Derrick Rose
i think Griffin will be a monster! Durant a scoring machine and rose a top 3 PG.
Durant needs to become more rounded to become the best player. Griffin has a LOT of work to do to become the best. but at this stage he is a beast and there is no reason to think he wont improve year by year. Rose has it toughest because he is at PG where CP3 and D-will will always be elite. he has the most work to do, as he has to pass those two to begin with. He needs a jump shot and get better at defending.
However with Boozer in the team now, we could well see his assist numbers spike. But he does need to continue to improve his Jump Shot.
IMO its hard to say how good Griffin will be after just 20 games. Thats why at this stage i have him at three. And rose has a lot further to go than Durant, who is already a top 7 player. so i have to go with
Durant
Rose
Griffin
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Re: Blake Griffin vs Kevin Durant vs Derrick Rose
Originally Posted by ShaqAttack3234
I agree that neither will be as good as Durant, though I haven't seen much of Rose this year.
Blake's scoring and rebounding numbers are nice, but he'll have to learn to block more than half a shot per game and make an impact defensively before I'll consider him elite because I don't see him being a good enough scorer to be top 5 on just that and rebounding.
Where will Dwight's athleticism have gone in 3-4 years? The guy is extremely durable and he's in great shape. He'll still have a huge athletic advantage over just about any big man barring a major injury.
Plus, Dwight seems to have improved his skills a lot this season, give him a few more years and he could be even better. He's still only 25, most players peak around 27-28, sometimes a bit later.
He will be a top 10 player at 29 or 30 but he won't be a top 3 he'll probably be
less athletic but he'll still be good but not amazing like now.
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Re: Blake Griffin vs Kevin Durant vs Derrick Rose
Originally Posted by sosolid4u09
i think Griffin will be a monster! Durant a scoring machine and rose a top 3 PG.
Durant needs to become more rounded to become the best player. Griffin has a LOT of work to do to become the best. but at this stage he is a beast and there is no reason to think he wont improve year by year. Rose has it toughest because he is at PG where CP3 and D-will will always be elite. he has the most work to do, as he has to pass those two to begin with. He needs a jump shot and get better at defending.
However with Boozer in the team now, we could well see his assist numbers spike. But he does need to continue to improve his Jump Shot.
IMO its hard to say how good Griffin will be after just 20 games. Thats why at this stage i have him at three. And rose has a lot further to go than Durant, who is already a top 7 player. so i have to go with
Durant
Rose
Griffin
This would be the safest list because Durants already proven but if its based on potential
Griffin
Rose
Durant
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Re: Blake Griffin vs Kevin Durant vs Derrick Rose
Originally Posted by Ikill
do you really think that
no flipping way mate. A.I one of the best scorers of the decade. How on earth can you say jennings will be on that level? what so far leads to believe that?
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Re: Blake Griffin vs Kevin Durant vs Derrick Rose
Originally Posted by Ikill
This would be the safest list because Durants already proven but if its based on potential
Griffin
Rose
Durant
Durant can still improve in so many ways. his defense his rebounding his passing his turnovers.
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