Lebron gave Rose a call after being eliminated and his team was seen with bulls gear

[guy]

Neither am I. The encouraging thing is the evidently now widespread recognition among players, league insiders, and the media that Chicago provides the best chance to win for a free agent. Chicago being the third largest city in the nation is only icing on the cake. If we don't get Lebron we will certainly get at least one of the "big four" free agents out of Lebron, Wade, Bosh, and Amare.

Although I'm excited about the offseason, I'm going to try to not get my hopes up for even that. Out of the big 4, the only one that is guaranteed to leave there teams is Bosh IMO. Even with all the speculation, I think there's a good chance Lebron still stays. The Heat have a good chance of attracting another free agent that will entice Wade to resign, such as Bosh, Boozer, or Lee. And although it looked very unlikely earlier this season, with all of the Suns' recent succcess, there's a good chance Amare stays. If Bosh goes elsewhere, such as Miami, the Bulls are shit out of luck, maybe overpaying someone.

[Go Getter]

You got it all wrong element. Chicagoans don't eat pizza with forks because their hands are small, it's because their pizza is more like lasagna than anything else. Who would eat lasagna with their hands?

Deep dish is just a calling card.

If you're ever in Chicago try Homerun Inn



or Aurelio's

[jasonresno]

I'm from the Chicago area but I love the big and thin NYC style pizza.

Ostracize me fellow Chicagoans. I've earned it :/

[Go Getter]

I'm from the Chicago area but I love the big and thin NYC style pizza.

Ostracize me fellow Chicagoans. I've earned it :/

For SHAME! Go over there in the corner and sit next to Bartman.

[Dengness9]

[\quote]Chicago have their mind set on developing guys like Rose and Noah for the future. Snagging LeBron would effectively change the entire ethic and game plan of that team. Not to say LeBron is old but it's clear that LeBron doesn't require the same attention that Noah/Rose demand this early in their careers.

There are honestly back door arguments out of almost every team LeBrons supposedly poised to sign with. Sharing spotlight with Kobe in LA by going to the Clippers, the potential for disaster in sharing the 'go to guy' role with Wade in Miami, the shadow of MJ in Chicago. I'm in no way one of these "LeBron should go to the Knicks" types but, really, that franchise is just waiting for their storybook to be written. So much promise and so many boundless opportunities over the years only to have their dreams dashed time after time. LeBron could be the one that comes and pulls the city out of basketball obscurity by finally bringing home a ring.

Seems logical to me, even though I still don't think he'll leave Cleveland. That team will move heaven and earth to facilitate his needs and have demonstrated it time and time again.[/QUOTE]


Man honestly this is the post that finally made me sick. If you wanna lobby for the Knicks getting Lebron, I get it, I'm doing the same thing for my Bulls. But give me a ****ing break with this BS.


Rose and Noah demand some super special attention??!! Why? because they really did that by giving Rose a rookie coach(0 exp on any level) for his first 2 years of his career? Did it stop him from becoming an all-star by the age of 21? Rose is a superstar blooming, he will be fine on his own. And this will be Noah's 4th year upcoming at the age of 24 years old. The guy has played for 3 different coaches in 3 seasons but has also budded as a major piece to a championship team. Joakim is what he is and also doesn't need much "extra" developing. He will continue to do what he has done his whole career, rebound, play D, outhustle(everybody), energy, leadership. Alot of his offensive will come off rebounds and dumpoffs but Noah is a skilled passer as well.

Don't talk out your ass saying "i'm not sayin Lebron is old but....."

I don't care what your argument is, NO, your wrong. Dude is 25 years old. He is young and entering the "prime years" of his career.

Entering Lebron with Rose and Noah instantly makes all 3 of those players better than they currently are now, even LBJ.

Read this carefully. Rose is what the Cavs don't and never have had paired with Lebron. A TRUE All-star who demands a double team, constantly. Mo Williams is not and will never be that, Jamison has made a few allstar games but we all saw that he isn't a dominant force that requires a dbl team and he's only getting older. The notion that Rose can't shoot is mind boggling. He has one of the best mid range j's statistically after year 2, and he started shooting 3's for the last month and the post season. Defense and 3 point shooting are the absolute focus of his summer, and once he has a good 3 ball it's OVER.

And your another one with the MJ shadow thing.

Trust that it already occurred to me you have never looked at it the other way around. Did you ever think that Lebron would be lucky to restore the Bulls as a superpower in the NBA? HE WILL BE COMPARED TO MJ NO MATTER WHERE HE PLAYS. He has been compared to MJ since he was at St Vincent St Mary. It will never stop. As long as he is looked at as the best player in the L he will continue to be compared.

And the fact that Lebron is beginning to fall into the category of best not to win it....??

You think he gives a **** about MJ's shadow? No, he wants a CHIP, to get that king kong gorilla off his back. And if he believes that his best chance to win, and not saying it's his opinion*, is in Chicago, then that's where he's gonna go because it's all about winning.

Hell he will love being compared to MJ if it means he gets that precious 1st title in his trophy case to go with those MVP's that mean ALOT less than they should til he proves can win it all. That's real talk right there no matter what you think of my opinion.

Shit got a lot realer for Lebron. Eveything else has to take a backseat. He needs to choose his destination based on where he can possibly have a dynasty but also win right away. He at the moment, if he's committed to winning, will not focus on becoming the 1st billionaire ballplayer, going to the biggest market even if he loves the city,worrying about playing in the shadow of a former player, or even as KG spoke of, letting loyalty hurt him and rob him of his youth.

BTW, Lebron's "Team" is literally the word he uses to describe his agent,advisors,friends, business partners, etc. And the guy who tweeted that people in his "team" were wearing bulls gear is Will Burge from ESPN radio in Cleveland amongst other things.

All I can say about Lebron calling Rose is that my Chicago suburbs newspaper said they didn't print it til it was confirmed by an NBA source. That news had already been broken by Scoop Jackson damn near a week before most Chicago papers printed it. I obviously don't know if it's true but it certainly now appears to be.

If it is true, then there's a great chance Lebron is favoring the Bulls and combining super powers w/ Rose.

[cotdt]

you guys do realize that Rose is the name of Lebron's agent, right?

[ShaqAttack3234]

come get some new yawker.

Brooklyn Pizza>>>>>Chicago Pizza

And as talented as they'd be, I'm not sold on a Lebron/Rose duo. Lebron is the better playmaker, but Lebron would have a much better chance of being effective off the ball. I couldn't see Rose being nearly as good without the ball in his hands a lot. It'd be an adjustment for Lebron as well.

[Go Getter]

Aren't we supposed to discuss the nba rumors, even if they are on the rumors page?

I wasn't going to say anything but.....this makes sense....

[Dengness9]

Brooklyn Pizza>>>>>Chicago Pizza

And as talented as they'd be, I'm not sold on a Lebron/Rose duo. Lebron is the better playmaker, but Lebron would have a much better chance of being effective off the ball. I couldn't see Rose being nearly as good without the ball in his hands a lot. It'd be an adjustment for Lebron as well.

When both players demand dbl teams all game, that equals wide open looks for eachother, which also equals wide open looks for everybody. And think about how much easier it would be for the 3rd thru 5th options in Deng,Noah,and Hinrich.

It is truly unreal how many people don't understand how unbelievable those 2 would be 2gether. Both are dominant freaks of nature who also love to share and make their teammates better.

Apparently it's too powerful a combo for some to envision working. Otherwise I don't get it or really wanna understand why you would think they'd be anything but unstoppable together.

[Go Getter]

Apparently it's too powerful a combo for some to envision working. Otherwise I don't get it or really wanna understand why you would think they'd be anything but unstoppable together.

Deng, that was a good post [pun intended]

[ShaqAttack3234]

When both players demand dbl teams all game, that equals wide open looks for eachother, which also equals wide open looks for everybody. And think about how much easier it would be for the 3rd thru 5th options in Deng,Noah,and Hinrich.

It is truly unreal how many people don't understand how unbelievable those 2 would be 2gether. Both are dominant freaks of nature who also love to share and make their teammates better.

Apparently it's too powerful a combo for some to envision working. Otherwise I don't get it or really wanna understand why you would think they'd be anything but unstoppable together.

Because then you'd have to have a shooting PF and a shooting specialist at shooting guard, plus what are Lebron and Rose going to be doing when they don't have the ball in their hands? And when would they be playing a lineup of Rose-Hinrich-Deng-Lebron-Noah? That would give them just one 3 point shooter and they'd be undersized.

[monkeypox]

After eating a chicago deep dish pizza and a chicago hot dog, I came to the conclusion that people from chicago like bread.

I think being in MJ's shadow is a bit different from say the shadow of the Laker greats or the Celtic greats. In the case of those two, you have a lineage of great players with varying levels of skill and success, so you can kind of proudly stand shoulder to shoulder with them without having to be the best. With MJ and the Bulls, he cuts a very singular figure with the franchise with an almost impossible resume to compare to. Considering how hard it is to win a title, for LeBron it's almost guaranteed failure if his goal is to be the greatest in the franchise. I suppose if he chose to think about it that way, he would be last place in the pantheon of Bull greats, but only because he was the only one.

But like someone said, we don't know what LeBron is thinking and what his goal is when moving teams. Does he want to jump on board an already built team to sort of coattail from the front? Does he want to be the most famous player in the NBA and build his own team? Is he mostly interested in the type of pizza he can get? We really don't know, so it's hard to say at this point if any team is necessarily out of the running at this point.

Heck, if the Jazz get the 1st pick they could get Wall, and whether they trade or keep him, have a pretty dominating team. A team that got just as far as his did in the playoffs this year in a more difficult conference. If he really just wanted to plug in to a team and win he could go there! (Ok, not really.) We just don't know.

[burnsy87]

You got it all wrong element. Chicagoans don't eat pizza with forks because their hands are small, it's because their pizza is more like lasagna than anything else. Who would eat lasagna with their hands?

LOL at you thinking all deep dish pizza is 9 inches thick like the picture shown above.

most deep dish pizza can be eaten with your hands, given they are bigger than the guy from the BK commercials.

Once again. Deep dish from Lou's or Giordanos is some of the best pizza you will ever eat.

Then again, you guys have watched tv about the pizza, so who are we to say whats good, we've only been eating it for the last couple decades.

[Dengness9]

Because then you'd have to have a shooting PF and a shooting specialist at shooting guard, plus what are Lebron and Rose going to be doing when they don't have the ball in their hands? And when would they be playing a lineup of Rose-Hinrich-Deng-Lebron-Noah? That would give them just one 3 point shooter and they'd be undersized.

Well 2nd priority for Bulls offseason plans behind signing Lebron, is signing a 3pt shooter, like a Korver, Morrow, or Ray Allen. Mark my words, that no matter what stud FA signs in Chicago, they will also sign a player who is deadly from downtown.

And that lineup of Rose-Hinrich-LBJ-Deng-Noah wouldn't be their starting lineup but definitely one of the most dominant small ball lineups seen in awhile, and would play those 5 together when the matchups makes sense. With Lebron and Deng being interchangeable at 3 and 4 in that lineup.

If the Bulls only landed Lebron and some smaller role players, the Bulls would put Rose-Hinrich-LBJ-Gibson-Noah on the floor as the starting 5. But what you would more likely see, is the signed 3pt specialist starting at 2, with Hinrich and Deng off your bench as one of the best 6th/7th man combo's in the league, if not the best, seeing as they are 6th and 7th year vets who would both start on probably atleast 75% of NBA teams, and probably more.

It would be ideal to get a shooting PF in the rotation but Noah and Taj will both score in double digits every night off rebounds and dump off dishes. When defenses have to double team Rose and Lebron, that puts the other defenders in a bad spot too, leading to less than ideal position and mismatches. Not to mention Noahs butt ugly J isn't as bad as it looks and goes in more than you think, and Taj has a decent midrange J already. Both will improve in that area as they are already strong defenders and rebounders.

You don't need a lot of scoring from your C and PF when you have LBJ averaging 27-30ppg, Rose 20-25ppg, Deng 15-20ppg, Hinrich 10-15ppg, and 3pt shooter 10-15ppg.

[ShaqAttack3234]

Well 2nd priority for Bulls offseason plans behind signing Lebron, is signing a 3pt shooter, like a Korver, Morrow, or Ray Allen. Mark my words, that no matter what stud FA signs in Chicago, they will also sign a player who is deadly from downtown.

And that lineup of Rose-Hinrich-LBJ-Deng-Noah wouldn't be their starting lineup but definitely one of the most dominant small ball lineups seen in awhile, and would play those 5 together when the matchups makes sense. With Lebron and Deng being interchangeable at 3 and 4 in that lineup.

If the Bulls only landed Lebron and some smaller role players, the Bulls would put Rose-Hinrich-LBJ-Gibson-Noah on the floor as the starting 5. But what you would more likely see, is the signed 3pt specialist starting at 2, with Hinrich and Deng off your bench as one of the best 6th/7th man combo's in the league, if not the best, seeing as they are 6th and 7th year vets who would both start on probably atleast 75% of NBA teams, and probably more.

It would be ideal to get a shooting PF in the rotation but Noah and Taj will both score in double digits every night off rebounds and dump off dishes. When defenses have to double team Rose and Lebron, that puts the other defenders in a bad spot too, leading to less than ideal position and mismatches. Not to mention Noahs butt ugly J isn't as bad as it looks and goes in more than you think, and Taj has a decent midrange J already. Both will improve in that area as they are already strong defenders and rebounders.

You don't need a lot of scoring from your C and PF when you have LBJ averaging 27-30ppg, Rose 20-25ppg, Deng 15-20ppg, Hinrich 10-15ppg, and 3pt shooter 10-15ppg.

All I'm saying is that there's a good chance it'll take some adjusting for both of them. Obviously, the talent would be there so it wouldn't be a complete bust regardless, but Chicago will definitely have to have 2 shooters on the floor with them.