Carmelo shooting 14 of 43 through first 2 games

[tontoz]

Melo took far more shots than any two of his teamates combined.

[sd3035]

Carmelo is a useless POS D-league caliber chucker

He'll be in China or on a street corner in a few years

[VengefulAngel]

Compared to Kawhi? No.

Actually it's quite close.


When comparing their defensive (real) plus or minus it's a lot closer than you might think.


Kawhi Leonard, SF SA 2.98 (ORPM) 4.59 (DRPM) 7.57 (RPM) (WAR)12.67

Khris Middleton, SF MIL 1.97(ORPM) 4.09 (DRPM) 6.06 (RPM)
(WAR) 12.42

Looking at DWS:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...middlkh01.html


Khris Middleton: DWS: 3.5

Kawhi Leonard: DWS: 4.4


Kawhi Leonard:

DEFENSE/REBOUNDING
Rebound % 12%
Block % 1.8%
Steal % 3.4%
Defensive +/- +3.5

Khris Middleton:

DEFENSE/REBOUNDING
Rebound % 8%
Block % 0.5%
Steal % 2.3%
Defensive +/- +0.5


The last bunch of statistics, is a little bit misleading as it is the weighted average of the last 3 seasons, Kawhi has been more established and thus has been more consistent.

[Optimus Prime]

"Best scorer in the league!" according to many ISHiots and talking heads on LeSPN.



Lakers will probably trade for him this season or next off season though...

[CarlosBoozer]

What ever happened to the knicks? They were pretty good just a few seasons ago!

[aj1987]

Actually it's quite close.


When comparing their defensive (real) plus or minus it's a lot closer than you might think.


Kawhi Leonard, SF SA 2.98 (ORPM) 4.59 (DRPM) 7.57 (RPM) (WAR)12.67

Khris Middleton, SF MIL 1.97(ORPM) 4.09 (DRPM) 6.06 (RPM)
(WAR) 12.42

Looking at DWS:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...middlkh01.html


Khris Middleton: DWS: 3.5

Kawhi Leonard: DWS: 4.4


Kawhi Leonard:

DEFENSE/REBOUNDING
Rebound % 12%
Block % 1.8%
Steal % 3.4%
Defensive +/- +3.5

Khris Middleton:

DEFENSE/REBOUNDING
Rebound % 8%
Block % 0.5%
Steal % 2.3%
Defensive +/- +0.5


The last bunch of statistics, is a little bit misleading as it is the weighted average of the last 3 seasons, Kawhi has been more established and thus has been more consistent.

I'm not really big on stats when it comes to defense, but nba.com has player tracking stats. Last season, players attempted 9.2 shots a game while being defended by Kawhi and made 4 of them at 44.2%, compared to 44.6% while being defended by others. Kawhi decreased their production by 0.4%.

Chris Middleton defended the same number of shots a game, but players only made 3.6 of their shots against him at 39.5%, compared to 43.9% against others. A difference of 4.3%.

As I said, stats are not to be trusted while evaluating defense. Take it for what it's worth.

[VengefulAngel]

I'm not really big on stats when it comes to defense, but nba.com has player tracking stats. Last season, players attempted 9.2 shots a game while being defended by Kawhi and made 4 of them at 44.2%, compared to 44.6% while being defended by others. Kawhi decreased their production by 0.4%.

Chris Middleton defended the same number of shots a game, but players only made 3.6 of their shots against him at 39.5%, compared to 43.9% against others. A difference of 4.3%.

As I said, stats are not to be trusted while evaluating defense. Take it for what it's worth.

Can i have linky?, i am really interested in seeing some more of these stats. :)

[dunksby]

Actually it's quite close.


When comparing their defensive (real) plus or minus it's a lot closer than you might think.


Kawhi Leonard, SF SA 2.98 (ORPM) 4.59 (DRPM) 7.57 (RPM) (WAR)12.67

Khris Middleton, SF MIL 1.97(ORPM) 4.09 (DRPM) 6.06 (RPM)
(WAR) 12.42

Looking at DWS:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...middlkh01.html


Khris Middleton: DWS: 3.5

Kawhi Leonard: DWS: 4.4


Kawhi Leonard:

DEFENSE/REBOUNDING
Rebound % 12%
Block % 1.8%
Steal % 3.4%
Defensive +/- +3.5

Khris Middleton:

DEFENSE/REBOUNDING
Rebound % 8%
Block % 0.5%
Steal % 2.3%
Defensive +/- +0.5


The last bunch of statistics, is a little bit misleading as it is the weighted average of the last 3 seasons, Kawhi has been more established and thus has been more consistent.

That ain't close dude

[Lebronxrings]

lmao how do you play so shiet against kent bazemore. Sad

[VengefulAngel]

That ain't close dude

Yeh, but KM is really underrated lol.