since duncans 5 equal kobe. will duncans 6 equal jordan when he wins coming off the B

[kennethgriffin]

.....ench?


its quite obvious aldridge or marc gasol will ring chase to the spurs


duncan will take a bench role...


so itel be

1999 - lockout title with robinson
2003 - legit title with robinson/parker
2005 - manu 20ppg/assist leader/60%fgs in finals wins ( real finals mvp )
2007 - parker finals mvp
2014 - kawhi finals mvp ( duncan 3rd option )
2016 - aldridge or gasol finals mvp ( duncan 6th man )





6 = 6 according to duncan fans

[keep-itreal]

Duncan has always been the Spurs best player every season.

[kennethgriffin]

IMO duncans only ring without an asterisk was 2003

period

every other one has a major flaw attached to it


his ring prestige goes

1999 - 0.5 half for lockout
2003 - 1.0 full
2005 - 0.8 good co-lead
2007 - 0.8 good co-lead
2014 - 0.3 3rd man


and 2016 = 0.1 sixth man


6 turns into 3.4

[kennethgriffin]

Duncan has always been the Spurs best player every season.

[SouBeachTalents]

IMO duncans only ring without an asterisk was 2003

period

every other one has a major flaw attached to it


his ring prestige goes

1999 - 0.5 half for lockout
2003 - 1.0 full
2005 - 0.8 good co-lead
2007 - 0.8 good co-lead
2014 - 0.3 3rd man


and 2016 = 0.1 sixth man


6 turns into 3.4

But let me guess, Kobe gets full credit for his first 3 rings, especially 2000

[ISHGoat]

Lmao op going full meltdown mode

If a shortened regular season reduces 1 ring to 0.5, then playing with shaq reduces 1 to 0.2 and playing with gasol reduces 1 to 0.3, so kobe has 1 total ring

Lemme break it down like you did

00 - sidekick, 0.2
01 - sidekick, 0.2
02 - sidekick, 0.2
09 - colead, 0.3
10 - colead, 0.3

5 turns into 1

3.4 > 1

[kennethgriffin]

But let me guess, Kobe gets full credit for his first 3 rings, especially 2000

2000 - 0.7 great 2nd banana ( assist leader, best clutch player, saved wcf's, 21ppg )
2001 - 0.9 goat co-lead ( 29/7/6 = better than most 1st options all time )
2002 - 0.9 goat co-lead ( 27/6/5 = better than most 1st options all time )
2009 - 1.0 full
2010 - 1.0 full



4.5 prestige

[ISHGoat]

2000 - 0.7 great 2nd banana ( assist leader, best clutch player, saved wcf's, 21ppg )
2001 - 0.9 goat co-lead ( 29/7/6 = better than most 1st options all time )
2002 - 0.9 goat co-lead ( 27/6/5 = better than most 1st options all time )
2009 - 1.0 full
2010 - 1.0 full



4.5 prestige

this ***** just making shit up, lets just look at raw stats like scoring without looking at advanced stats like BPM and VORP and WS/48 because they dont benefit kobe

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=376406

kobe has the least playoff impact of the supposed "top 10"

[iamgine]

Equal? No it's better.

[scm5]

Duncan has always been the Spurs best player every season.

Their best and most consistent player, even this season/postseason.

Kobe and Duncan have similar impact on the court and they're within the same tier of player. MJ is on a whole other level.

[kennethgriffin]

Lmao op going full meltdown mode

If a shortened regular season reduces 1 ring to 0.5, then playing with shaq reduces 1 to 0.2 and playing with gasol reduces 1 to 0.3, so kobe has 1 total ring

Lemme break it down like you did

00 - sidekick, 0.2
01 - sidekick, 0.2
02 - sidekick, 0.2
09 - colead, 0.3
10 - colead, 0.3

5 turns into 1

3.4 > 1

1. legit side kick rings = more than a lockout title 0.5... kobe in 2000 was great player... 23ppg season ( low for kobe. but high for duncan ) .. 21ppg playoffs ... saving the wcf and game 4 of the finals.. 19ppg finals average minus the game he got injured in the 1st quarter

2. 2001 and 2002 are the greatest 2nd option stats in nba history for a title. so i dunno how its not the greatest CO-LEAD titles

3. kobe averaged 30ppg and won finals mvp.. so its an automatic 1.0 title for both. gasol averaged 20ppg...


if kobe/shaq isnt co-lead when theyre within 1 point. how can you argue co lead for kobe/gasol when theyre separated by 10 points





take L's like a chump... i'm the champ around here son

i stay winning

[ISHGoat]

Their best and most consistent player, even this season/postseason.

Kobe and Duncan have similar impact on the court and they're within the same tier of player. MJ is on a whole other level.

actually kobe is nowhere near duncans impact on the court.

[ISHGoat]

1. legit side kick rings = more than a lockout title 0.5... kobe in 2000 was great player... 23ppg season ( low for kobe. but high for duncan ) .. 21ppg playoffs ... saving the wcf and game 4 of the finals.. 19ppg finals average minus the game he got injured in the 1st quarter

2. 2001 and 2002 are the greatest 2nd option stats in nba history for a title. so i dunno how its not the greatest CO-LEAD titles

3. kobe averaged 30ppg and won finals mvp.. so its an automatic 1.0 title for both. gasol averaged 20ppg...


if kobe/shaq isnt co-lead when theyre within 1 point. how can you argue co lead for kobe/gasol when theyre separated by 10 points





take L's like a chump... i'm the champ around here son

i stay winning

respond to my thread

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=376406

[kennethgriffin]

this ***** just making shit up, lets just look at raw stats like scoring without looking at advanced stats like BPM and VORP and WS/48 because they dont benefit kobe

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=376406

kobe has the least playoff impact of the supposed "top 10"

analytics stay losing



youre efficiency garbage favors bigs for a reason. theyre 7 feet and collect rebounds based on position while taking mostly closer shots from limited ability

and pau ran his offense off the kobe pick and roll or screen 80% of the time. meaning his entire game was based off kobe drawing paus defender so he could get a wide open flat footed shot

[kennethgriffin]

respond to my thread

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=376406

if kobe/shaq isnt co-lead when theyre within 1 point. how can you argue co lead for kobe/gasol when theyre separated by 10 points

respond to this first

stay losing son