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The Puppeteer
Re: 1 team can have 4 max contracts and
Originally Posted by DMAVS41
You don't think the Knicks being in NY had at least a little to do with Melo going there?
You don't think Shaq going to the Lakers had at least a little to do with LA?
Melo had no choice...Lala forced the trade to NY
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: 1 team can have 4 max contracts and
Originally Posted by FireDavidKahn
Melo had no choice...Lala forced the trade to NY
Haha. True.
Yet that makes my point for me.
Lala ain't going to Milwaukee if she has a choice.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: 1 team can have 4 max contracts and
In reality there are 2 factors that decide where a player will sign:
1 How much money will they pay me
2 Can I win
Everything else doesn't matter. How the weather is, how the schools are, how big the market is, do the houses appreciate in value, etc. None of that shit matters.
Can I win, and how much will they pay me. Those are the only factors.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: 1 team can have 4 max contracts and
Originally Posted by DMAVS41
Haha. True.
Yet that makes my point for me.
Lala ain't going to Milwaukee if she has a choice.
But Greg Monroe did, and didn't even meet with the Knicks.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: 1 team can have 4 max contracts and
Originally Posted by Sarcastic
I think Melo being born in NY, and his wife being born in NY had more to do with it than anything. And I think his wife had more weight on the decision than anything.
So...lets get this straight.
You think that a star player is just as likely to choose Memphis or OKC or Milwaukee as they are New York or LA...
If the money and basketball situations are even?
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: 1 team can have 4 max contracts and
Originally Posted by Sarcastic
But Greg Monroe did, and didn't even meet with the Knicks.
Yea...I guess you missed my point about the basketball situation mattering.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: 1 team can have 4 max contracts and
Originally Posted by DMAVS41
So...lets get this straight.
You think that a star player is just as likely to choose Memphis or OKC or Milwaukee as they are New York or LA...
If the money and basketball situations are even?
Can you name me a player other than Shaq that went to NY or LA because of market?
I already explained about him. He picked LA because he wanted to make movies and music. That is a once in our lifetime example though.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: 1 team can have 4 max contracts and
Originally Posted by Sarcastic
Can you name me a player other than Shaq that went to NY or LA because of market?
I already explained about him. He picked LA because he wanted to make movies and music. That is a once in our lifetime example though.
Could you answer the question?
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: 1 team can have 4 max contracts and
Originally Posted by DMAVS41
Could you answer the question?
It's a trick question. There are no such things as equal basketball situations.
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The Puppeteer
Re: 1 team can have 4 max contracts and
Originally Posted by Sarcastic
Can you name me a player other than Shaq that went to NY or LA because of market?
I already explained about him. He picked LA because he wanted to make movies and music. That is a once in our lifetime example though.
Melo.
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The Puppeteer
Re: 1 team can have 4 max contracts and
Originally Posted by Sarcastic
It's a trick question. There are no such things as equal basketball situations.
...That is actually a valid answer
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: 1 team can have 4 max contracts and
Originally Posted by Sarcastic
It's a trick question. There are no such things as equal basketball situations.
It is a question designed to illustrate how absurd the position is that where a player decides to play...has 0 factor in their decision.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: 1 team can have 4 max contracts and
Originally Posted by FireDavidKahn
Melo.
He wanted NY because he and his wife are from there, not because of market size.
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NBA sixth man of the year
Re: 1 team can have 4 max contracts and
Originally Posted by Kblaze8855
Really nothing to judge the Lakers bad team drawing potential by before now. They have been good to great for most of 70 years. They had only won under 33 games once since they were in Minny. They have been a glory franchise with the pieces, managment, and potential for greatness....most of all of our lives. So its hard to say what drew people there. Now that they suck....it doesnt seem the market makes it happen. It sure as hell never drew significant players to the Clippers.
It seems the Lakers....when poorly run/rebuilding....are no more of a destination than anywhere else. What evidence do I have the city draws anyone....when the city always had a good team to offer as well? Now that they dont...it seems it wasnt the city after all. Or at least it isnt anymore.
The Lakers and Knicks seem to have been counting on that "People will come because we are who we are" shit for some time and finding that people were not coming because it was LA and NY. They were coming when the team offered something worth coming to.
Brooklyn...the Knicks...Lakers...Philly? Eh.
Seems like people go where there is a reason to go. Just so happens big markets have often been worthwhile basketball wise largely through good drafting and managment. When they arent....nobody seems to care.
I agree with this pretty much....When the Lakers had garbage teams before Shaq got there, was anybody begging to go play with Sedale Threat and Vlade Divac? (was Divac still there?) lol
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: 1 team can have 4 max contracts and
Originally Posted by DMAVS41
It is a question designed to illustrate how absurd the position is that where a player decides to play...has 0 factor in their decision.
And I told you there are 2 factors, money and chance to win. Money can be equal, but chance to win is not. There are different teammates on every team, hence there are no equal situations.
For example, Chris Paul doesn't actually have a twin named Cliff Paul. So playing with him on the Clippers is unlike any other situation on every other team. If someone wants to play with Chris Paul, it would have to be on the Clippers. You can't play with Chris Paul on Memphis.
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