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    Default Top 10 PGs of All-Time

    Top 10 PGs of All-Time,ranked. I have listed my reasons and reasons for not picking all of the players. I have weighted everything from, longetivity, winning, awards, skills, passing, and their overall career status.



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    Magic Johnson

    Advantages: Where do we start for the greatest PG of all-time...1st of all, he was one of the best passers ever. He is easily a top 3 passer of all-time. Important for a PG. Had over 10apg 10 times in his career. And then you go onto seeing he was a great scorer and a terrific rebounder. But thats not where it stops, he has all the awards one would want, including being a 3 time MVP. And to sum it all off, he has 5 championships, including 3 Final MVPs.

    Disadvantages:
    This list is short. Defense was one thing he lacked. Also, his career wasn't as long as one would want from a GOAT.





    2.
    Oscar Robertson


    Advantages:
    His overall talent and game. The guy is the best scoring PG of all-time. He had great passing numbers. Believe it or not, he won 7 assist titles. Very dominant when it comes to passing and scoring. Many also consider him the greatest rebounder of all-time. He had it all. On top of all this, he was also a good rebounder. He truly could do it all. Has many awards as well, 9 Time All-NBA 1st selection with an MVP. Lastly, he also won a championship.

    Disadvantages:
    Well he didn't do much winning most of his career...Even though he has 1 title, it came as a 2nd option and not a 1st. So he definitely wasn't too much of a winner. Also he dominated the ball quite a bit.





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    Isiah Thomas



    Advantages:
    Where do we begin here. He had great passing skills to start off with. He was an amazing scorer, and he 2 championships. So basically he has the major aspects covered. He was overall a 12 Time All-Star, and won a Finals MVP on top of it. Great playoff performer as well.

    Disadvantages:
    He had a very short career. Retired at age 32. Though it began kind of early, and he still accomplished quite a bit. Another thing was he was very TO prone. And defense wasn't his greatest thing either



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    Bob Cousy



    Advantages:
    The 1st ever True PG. And maybe the greatest ever. He is another Top 3 Passing PG of all-time. The true innovator for passing. Winning an incredible 8 assist titles in a row. He was also one of the best scorers in his era. Being Top 3 in scoring for 3 years. And finish it all off he has more rings than any PG on here. 6 championships. And there is no doubt if the Finals MVP award he existed, he would have at least one. He has also won an MVP.


    Disadvantages: It would look like after all he has accomplished he should be at least 3rd. But he played in a less competitive era. And he was behind Russell as the best player on the team for most of his career. Other than that, he is a great PG.





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    John Stockton


    Advantages: Probably the most truest PG of them all. And another no doubt Top 3 Passing PG of all-time. Great career longetivity and is the all-time leader in assists and steals. Also had multiple All-Star app. and multiple All-Defensive Team Selections. Been to the playoffs every year of his career.

    Disadvantages:
    Well, he didn't win a ring. Even though he had a Top 15 player of all-time with him. Another problem was he wasn't a "Take over the game" type PG. He never really was a "Superstar", he just did what he did very well. Still a great PG.





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    Gary Payton


    Advantages:
    Another long list of advantages. Great scorer 1st of all. One of the best for a PG at that. He was an exceptionally good passer as well. Finishing over 8apg 6 times. Defense is probably what he will be recognized for the most. Amazing defender for a PG. Won a DPOY. Above average in rebounding also helps. He also won a ring. And had many All-Star app. and All-NBA App. Great longevity and durability on top of that.


    Disadvantages:
    Another short list. The main thing is that he didn't win a ring in his prime. Other than that, there isn't much.




    7.
    Walt Frazier


    Advantages: Here is another no doubt Top 10 PG of all-time. 1st of all, he was a terrific scorer. Multiple seasons of 20+ppg. Also one of the greatest defensive PGs of all-time. And he was a solid passer and rebounder as well. The guy also won 2 rings.


    Disadvantages: 1st of all, his passing wasn't really that good for a PG. Only had more than 7apg twice in his career. That really hurts him. And the 2 rings he won he didn't get a Finals MVP so he was the no.2 guy. Also, his career wasn't that long.




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    Jason Kidd

    Advantages: Well lets get started. He was a great passer/playmaker. One of the best of all-time. He also was a great rebounder. And he played great defense. Multiple All-Star App/Multiple All-NBA Team App. also helps him. There is no doubt he should be up on these Top PG lists. Also has displayed great longevity recently.

    Disadvantages: Well he wasn't really one of the greatest scorers. Shot many low FG% years. And he hasn't been able to win a ring either. Other than that, there isn't much for Kidd.




    9.
    Kevin Johnson

    Advantages: The most underrated player of all-time. He was a terrific scorer. One of the best PGs in that category. He also was a great passer. One of the best in that category as well. That should lock him in that list already. He also was not too bad of a defender either. Pretty underrated. Also a great playoff performer.

    Disadvantages: Well he also didn't win a ring. Also another reason was he was injured a lot, and that cut his career quite a bit. Other than that, he's good to go.




    10.
    Steve Nash


    Advantages:
    He is a great passer, and a pretty good scorer. He also has won 2 MVPs, and that should be good enough to get you in to this list. Furthermore, great performer in the playoffs, and known to help bring out the best from his teammates.


    Disadvantages:
    Not a good defender. Has never been to the NBA Finals. And also he hasn't played at a high level as long as most of the others.

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    Default Re: Top 10 PGs of All-Time

    Jason Kidd is top 5 PG all time...

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    Default Re: Top 10 PGs of All-Time

    Rewind since when the hell is Bob Cousy better than John Stockton

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    Default Re: Top 10 PGs of All-Time

    Funny list
    Oscar Robertson :

    Disadvantages: Well he didn't do much winning most of his career...Even though he has 1 title, it came as a 2nd option and not a 1st. So he definitely wasn't too much of a winner.
    Gary Payton


    Advantages: He also won a ring.

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    Nate Archibald > Kevin Johnson and Nash.

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    I'd take Tiny Archibald over Nash. Nash is on the Timbug/Price level for me.

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    Default Re: Top 10 PGs of All-Time

    Walt Frazier > Payton.

    Both were great defenders, but Frazier won 2 titles as one of the 2 best players of the team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikaiel
    Funny list




    Did you say "funny" because of that?

    Because winning a ring as a number 2 option isn't that great of a thing for a #2 All-Time great PG, that's why it was listed in his disadvantages. Furthermore, the players in front and behind him won rings as number one options. Advantages and disadvantages section explained why they weren't ranked higher, and that's the reason for Oscar. For Payton, the player above him, and 4 out of the 5 below Payton failed to win a ring. So it makes sense there.


    You have to see the whole picture before you decide to think something is funny. Otherwise, the joke is on you.

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    LMFAO at you dropping Walt for not being the man. Go look at wilts stats to willis reed during the chip runs. LOL Reed came back and made one shot and Walt made the rest. GTFO if thats why you are dropping him on the list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakers_forever
    Nate Archibald > Kevin Johnson and Nash.
    Nate Archibald is one of the most overrated players of All-Time. Guess how many times he took his team to the playoffs in his prime?



    Just once. Yes just once. A player who went to the playoffs just once in his prime deserves to be Top 10 in anything? Well I'm going to be positive and assume you just didn't know that.

    Tiny dominated the ball very much, therefore had great statistics, however never really gave his teammates a chance, and therefore missed playoffs.


    Nash and KJ on the other hand, granted they were gifted with good teammates, however they also brought out the best out of their teammates, and were able to play a style of play that allowed them to share the ball with their teammates and win games. I think KJ made playoffs every season besides once where he was traded mid-season in his rookie season. This actually matters a lot. What good are Tiny's numbers if they don't even make playoffs? KJ and Nash put up their numbers on a winning team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GP_20
    Nate Archibald is one of the most overrated players of All-Time. Guess how many times he took his team to the playoffs in his prime?



    Just once. Yes just once. A player who went to the playoffs just once in his prime deserves to be Top 10 in anything? Well I'm going to be positive and assume you just didn't know that.

    Tiny dominated the ball very much, therefore had great statistics, however never really gave his teammates a chance, and therefore missed playoffs.


    Nash and KJ on the other hand, granted they were gifted with good teammates, however they also brought out the best out of their teammates, and were able to play a style of play that allowed them to share the ball with their teammates and win games. I think KJ made playoffs every season besides once where he was traded mid-season in his rookie season. This actually matters a lot. What good are Tiny's numbers if they don't even make playoffs? KJ and Nash put up their numbers on a winning team.
    If you value winning so much, How come Payton is ahead of Frazier?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakers_forever
    Walt Frazier > Payton.

    Both were great defenders, but Frazier won 2 titles as one of the 2 best players of the team.
    Yes both were great defenders. But at the end of the day, the number one duty of a PG is to pass the ball. Frazier averaged more than 7apg only twice in his career, while Payton eclipsed that mark 9 times.

    Payton also got stronger arguments for being the better defender. But yeah, pretty close.

    Scoring wise, it's pretty close as well.


    At the end of the day, 2 rings (0 Finals MVPs) versus, better passing (most important for a PG) and much much greater longevity/durability. You realize Frazier played 15 games after the age of 32? Payton was an All-Star at age 33. I think that speaks volumes. Frazier, just didn't have the longevity of a player like Payton. That and passing make up the "team" arguments Frazier has for himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakers_forever
    If you value winning so much, How come Payton is ahead of Frazier?
    Major difference between making playoffs and winning the championship.

    You realize the differences right? I'm not discounting Tiny because he didn't win a championship. He made the playoffs once in his prime. That's the most pathetic thing. It's a waste of a prime. I mean seriously, think what you are dealing with here. Even players like Iverson, KG (pre-Boston), weren't that bad, and they are criticized for things like that. Bosh I think has either tied or eclipsed Tiny's entire prime accomplishments.

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    John Stockton should be 3rd and Kevin Johnson should be ahead of Jason Kidd if you ask me, rest are solid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yung D-Will
    Rewind since when the hell is Bob Cousy better than John Stockton
    Cousy was the original passing innovater. He did what Stockton was doing 30 years ago. He won 8 assist titles in a row. Stockton came later, and took off from where Cousy left in passing. Cousy was more innovative when it came to passing, Stockton probably more skilled. I'd still give Stockton the edge due to his records and longevity when it came to passing.

    But otherwise, Cousy was probably the better scorer (finished Top 3 in scoring 3 times in his career, we can't even imagine Stockton doing that). Cousy also won 6 championships and an MVP. I don't think Stockton ever finished than 7th in MVP voting and won 0 rings. In the accomplishment section, there are great differences between Stockton and Cousy. It's really not close. That's what separates them.

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