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    Default MJ made Pippen, pretty common knowledge for those who were around in the 90s...

    Proof...


    Michael Jordan's Genius Method of Creating Pippen in His Own Image
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    AUGUST 28, 2011

    For some reason, some NBA fans have been arguing that without Pippen, Michael Jordan would not have any titles or they ask, “How many did Jordan win without Pippen?” Answer=zero. By relaying this thought, mostly Bryant fans attempt to minimize Jordan’s ability to win it all six times for six times with six Finals MVP’s. I contend that Pippen was incapable of bringing Jordan a ring but was capable of learning from the greatest master player ever and not necessarily by choice but by force. Jordan was the actual architect of Pippen's greatness.


    Pippen as 22-Year-Old Rookie: NOT Pippen

    As a rookie, Pippen wasn’t good. In fact, he barely displayed rebounding skills and an ability to steal the ball. Pippen became part of Chicago's young forward tandem with Horace Grant, although both came off the bench to back up Brad Sellers and Charles Oakley, respectively, during their rookie seasons. With fellow Bull Michael Jordan as a motivational and instructional mentor, Pippen refined his skills and slowly developed many new ones over the course of his career.

    It is easy to see that Pippen had more physical fluidity than fellow rookie Grant and he played small forward, which is a more finesse position. But as a 22 year old rookie, Pippen did little to earn a starting spot against Sellers. As a rookie Pippen did play 79 games but he only shot 46 percent from the field and 17 percent from three range, not to mention a dismal 58 percent from the free throw line.


    Michael Begins to Create a Monster

    From shooting alone, for his career, Pippen was never able to save Jordan’s career. Pippen averaged 7.9 points as a rookie and while riding the bench for more than half the game (he averaged 21 minutes a game) he was witness to the single greatest player ever seen. Was he inspired? Yes. Was he on the hot seat from Michael? Yes, everyone was. Jordan was so good that he needed a supporting cast that would revolve around his amazing talent. If they resisted they were gone. Pippen didn’t resist: he gave in. When you see Jordan play like he did and you are a rookie, you know your game must improve, fast.

    And what a talent Pippen saw as a rookie. Michael Jordan shot 54 percent from the field and 84 percent from the line on his way to 35 points per game and a NBA MVP award to go along with his second (of 10) scoring leader title. Jordan had already tried to beat entire teams by himself in the playoffs but no one man can beat a five-man team. For one play they could but not for the entire game.


    Jars of Clay

    Jordan was forced to add to his scoring exploits by being everything for the Bulls. He also averaged 5.5 rebounds, 5.9 assists, 3.2 steals and 1.6 blocks per game. How did he manage 5.9 assists per game with people like Oakley, Grant, Pippen and Sellers on his team? He found a way to lead the Bulls in assists because he was constantly double and triple teamed. He learned pass work from Dean Smith at UNC and he knew from winning a national title at age 19 that teamwork was paramount.

    Pippen didn’t know much as a rookie. He talked, walked and played like a rookie. Yet when Michael was a rookie, he put in 28.2 points per game on 52 percent shooting and no one taught him to take over as a rookie, or even expected him to. He just did it. Jordan didn’t know who Pippen was when Jordan completed one of the most amazing rookie years ever. Pippen didn’t save Jordan but vice versa. Jordan saw in the young man, a prospect due to his ability to jump and take orders. Pippen was always great at taking orders from Jordan. By 1988, Pippen knew either he would have to improve or be ridiculed, attacked and demolished by Jordan. Pippen was a shy type who thought working hard for Jordan would lead him to a secure spot.


    Get Big Son

    By the end of 1988, Jordan was truly the greatest player a person could watch, especially on defense. In fact, Jordan was named Defensive Player of the Year in Pippen’s rookie year. Astonishingly Jordan also led the league in scoring. That has never been done before or again, that type of feat would be reserved for the greatest player to ever play the game. But let’s get real; a game comprised of five players at once is not designed to see five versus one man. Therefore it is impossible for a team without five adequate players to win, or in the Bulls case, at least two or three because Jordan was that good.

    Jordan had been on a quest since his rookie year to find a player with the passion for winning that he had and there was none around, not on the Bulls at least, so he had to form one. Pippen seemed like the perfect player for Jordan to mold into a player that would serve Jordan and actually be able to play defense alongside him. He was from a small college, he was impressionable and he didn’t talk back much but just listened.

    Jordan started working on Pippen as early as his late rookie year. In the offseason Jordan took him under his wing and probably thought, "If I can get this guy to do what I tell him to do and play how I tell him to play, I might finally have a support team to beat the team with the best five guys out there like maybe Parish, McHale, Bird, DJ and Ainge or Kareem, Green, Worthy, Scott and Johnson or Laimbeer, Mahorn, Rodman, Dumars and Thomas."
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    [quote]
    Materialization

    Pippen as a rookie looked nothing like he would the next season although he was still developing, and his development came in the areas that Michael excelled in: defense, scoring, rebounding and passing. After crucial and intense summer workouts, Pippen was now at Jordan

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    Default Re: MJ made Pippen, pretty common knowledge for those who were around in the 90s...

    Quote Originally Posted by TheMan
    mmm smack MJ

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    How upset are lefail fans that their hero didn't mold anyone unlike MJ? Where are the "breakfast" club testimonies from lebron's teammates? Where's the testimonies of a teammate of lebron doing double practices at his house like what MJ had Pippen do?

    Such is the difference between the mentality of a GOAT, and a wannabe that claimed he is the GOAT.

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    Default Re: MJ made Pippen, pretty common knowledge for those who were around in the 90s...

    Proof? Bleacher lets anyone submit their own content and they publish it.

    It be like saying: Pippen made MJ a winner, proof:
    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...without-pippen

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    Default Re: MJ made Pippen, pretty common knowledge for those who were around in the 90s...

    Quote Originally Posted by RRR3
    There are current threads about the MJ/Pippen dynamic. Bran stans claim Pippen was ready from day one to start dominating, simply not true and all you need to do is look at the stats rookie Pippen put up, he wasn't even a starter and didn't play most of the game, couldn't take Brad fukking Sellers starting job for fukks sake.

    I know you're a kid and you weren't around in the late 80s/90s but those of us who were, we all heard the stories from MJ, Pippen, Doug Collins, PJax, HoGrant, Johnny Bach etc on how MJ took Pippen under his wing and practiced hard to mold Pippen into the player he later became. It's common knowledge, fool. MJ was a stud early in his career, Pippen slowly developed into the stud he became, with MJ as his mentor. Again, look at Pippen's rookie and sophomore stats, those aren't all time great stats, not by a long shot.
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    Default Re: MJ made Pippen, pretty common knowledge for those who were around in the 90s...

    TheMan, wanna add me on PS4: TheC_O_B_R_A

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    I love you. Alpha.

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    Default Re: MJ made Pippen, pretty common knowledge for those who were around in the 90s...

    Quote Originally Posted by TheMan
    Bran stans claim Pippen was ready from day one to start dominating, simply not true
    It's because they are insecure, as their hero never molded anyone like MJ did.

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    Default Re: MJ made Pippen, pretty common knowledge for those who were around in the 90s...

    Quote Originally Posted by bigkingsfan
    Proof? Bleacher lets anyone submit their own content and they publish it.

    It be like saying: Pippen made MJ a winner, proof:
    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...without-pippen
    “Michael was great at identifying things,” Krause said. “Would Pippen have been great someplace else? Michael absolutely killed Scottie in practice every day for his first two years. Mike just tore Pip up. He made Pip learn how to compete and forced him into playing hard. Had there not been someone to challenge Scottie like that, I’m not sure what would’ve happened to him.”
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    Default Re: MJ made Pippen, pretty common knowledge for those who were around in the 90s...

    Who is this Higgy Apache?

    Lol, sounds like another Jordaneer who fabricates more Jordan mythology.

    PS, I'm not a Bran Stan

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    Default Re: MJ made Pippen, pretty common knowledge for those who were around in the 90s...

    Quote Originally Posted by TheMan
    Adrian Wojnarowski

    That's a quote from Krause.

    If you want an opinion from Wojnarowski in that article.

    Krause didn’t give Jordan everything, but he gave the most. He delivered Jordan history’s greatest coach in Jackson. He gave him Tex Winter and an unstoppable triangle offense. He gave him a Hall of Fame running mate, Scottie Pippen. Jerry Krause gave him a championship cast for three titles, and when Jordan returned from baseball, the GM reshaped the roster for three more championships. Jordan couldn’t do it alone, and never did. Whatever Jordan wants to believe, no one in basketball has ever given more to his greatness than Jerry Krause. No one.

    He gave more credit to Krause than Mike in that article.

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    Default Re: MJ made Pippen, pretty common knowledge for those who were around in the 90s...

    OP takes some Bleacher Report bias beat writer article and calls it "proof"

    Lol.

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    Default Re: MJ made Pippen, pretty common knowledge for those who were around in the 90s...

    Did Mj influence Scottie? Without a doubt. Did he "make" him? Unless he fathered him hell no. I hate when people say this like Scottie wasn't a lotto pick.

    And again the real question is: If Mj made Pippen, why'd he only make one? And why didn't he "make" one in Washington?

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    Default Re: MJ made Pippen, pretty common knowledge for those who were around in the 90s...

    not sure why this was one starred - it's true, after all

    Conversely, don't ignore the fact that practicing against someone with Pippen's 7-3 wingspan will improve one's offensive facets

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    Default Re: MJ made Pippen, pretty common knowledge for those who were around in the 90s...

    Quote Originally Posted by Turbo Slayer
    TheMan, wanna add me on PS4: TheC_O_B_R_A

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    No

    And you're not 14, if you were, you'd be in school, Akrazotile. You're a sad 35 year old loser.

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