Lebron-Wade BIG PROBLEM Fantastic Piece

[Rubio2Gasol]

Pauk - So basically - it's difficult having huge offensive responsibility when other players can't make shots?

Who knew.......

[arifgokcen]

Nope.

1. You can live off cuts if you have a passer with the acuity, vision and contextual awareness to play the defense and find you on cuts instead a) Taking a jumper or b) Driving himself or c) Pass to a closed down shooter.

2. The Heat have the best outside shooting in the league other than Golden State. They prepared for this. They built their team to assuage the spacing problem. In the paint - Duncan and Splitter are the ones making life difficult, and the people responsible for making these guys a non factor can't make a shot.

Dude first of all nice post.I have never seen anyone use so many different words here in a long time

1-Dude in order to live off cuts you have to have space and spurs and pop are well aware of this fact so they dont allow anything in the paint by completely collapsing.Pop will lose the game outside not inside.Even in the second game they gave away wide open shots but no free shots in the paint.Thats the point.

2-Well true

[Rubio2Gasol]

I must be watching something different. But when Wade is in the paint he is still looking good. Finishing around the rim and making some pretty tough shots. You don't need space to live off cuts.

You need someone to deliver the ball into the paint (not exactly a cakewalk) - so that Wade can catch and make a move. Once in the paint he can do basically anything.

It's only when the defense focuses on Wade and makes him force up a jumper that he looks truly shit.

[arifgokcen]

I must be watching something different. But when Wade is in the paint he is still looking good. Finishing around the rim and making some pretty tough shots. You don't need space to live off cuts.

You need someone to deliver the ball into the paint (not exactly a cakewalk) - so that Wade can catch and make a move. Once in the paint he can do basically anything.

It's only when the defense focuses on Wade and makes him force up a jumper that he looks truly shit.

I guess you must be watching something different

lets see what happens

6 hours and 2 minutes

[HurricaneKid]

And Lebron is -6 for the series. You want to bench him as well? Andersen is +6. You want him to start as well? +/- is a horrible indicator of how a person is actually playing. Lebrons TS% is 44% for the series. Sure, you can play Mike Miller for the 40 minutes instead of Wade. What he scores on the offensive end, he'll give up on the defensive end. Granted, Wade played horrible defense in game 2, he was pretty decent in the first 2.

There's a reason why Miller comes of the bench and plays 15 minutes. He can't handle the load of playing a whole game. Also, he has been hot this series. In the other 3 series, he was shooting near 35% and 28%. (from the 3). His DRTG, btw, is 121.

Miami would be up 2-1? Miami would've lost game 3 even if Allen and Miller played for 48 minutes. As for game 2, it would've been a blowout, if Wade didn't go off for 12 points and 6 assists in the first half. Lebron was non existent during the first half and Wade was keeping the game close. Lets not forget that in game 3, Wade actually kept the game close in the first half. He was 5-7 for 12 points. Wade has been playing shitty this series, but he's not the reason for Miami being down 2-1. You can blame Lebron for scoring 16 points on 18 shots per game.

The thing is Wade has been worse defensively. And if you think a 3 game stretch is a poor sample size why are you pointing to a guy who was playing :13 in some games. In fact, Miller had only played more than 6 1/2minutes in 4 games this postseason; Miami won 3 of those games by a combined 71 points.

The floor just looks better when both Miller and Allen out there. And while you would think they would be poor defensively with them out there they really haven't been bad against SA who doesn't exactly have them overmatched athletically.

You grossly overstate Miller's limitations. He started Miami's last 13 games, playing >20 min in each with a high of >36 min. This is with B2Bs and everything.

And its weird the cherrypicking you do. Saying the Heat couldn't have possibly have won without Wade's 5 1st half baskets and completely ignoring his 0-6 second half. The truth is Wade hasn't been efficient enough to make a point of taking the ball from the best player on earth to get him his stats. I REALLY hope they don't make a point of doing it again either.

[arifgokcen]

The thing is miami doesnt need ath. guys against spurs.They need healthy guys who can consistently chase around shooters of spurs.Spurs are not gonna beat you as a individual unlike OKC.They will beat you as a team so you have to have discipline and energy to consistently defend those guys.You only need a great defender against parker thats it.Even duncan is not a threat(at least at 37)

So starting miller and allen would do wonders for miami.

Of course lebron has to play like lebron instead of choking but i feel like this move would open up the floor and allow lebron to penetrate.Lets see what happens

I still expect a spurs win tonight

[HurricaneKid]

His DRTG, btw, is 121.

Well in this series his DRTG is 102.5 (ORTG 128.3)

Wade's DRTG is 114.7 and his ORTG is a mere 97.1.

Soo...

[TheMarkMadsen]

Damn the Alts come out

[aj1987]

The thing is Wade has been worse defensively. And if you think a 3 game stretch is a poor sample size why are you pointing to a guy who was playing :13 in some games. In fact, Miller had only played more than 6 1/2minutes in 4 games this postseason; Miami won 3 of those games by a combined 71 points.

Are you serious? Wade has been terrible on defense in the third game alone. He was pretty decent in the other two. So, Mike Miller playing over 6 and 1/2 minutes in those 3 games helped Miami win them by a combines 71 points?
FYI, Mike Miller played for over 10 minuted in 7 games this post season.

You grossly overstate Miller's limitations. He started Miami's last 13 games, playing >20 min in each with a high of >36 min. This is with B2Bs and everything.

And? Regular Season =/= Post Season. If you watch Miller play, he constantly holds his back is sometimes very slow to get back. Especially after taking a shot are sprinting for a short while. If he does play over 35 minutes, he might be fine for the first 15-20 minutes. After that he's going to hurt Miami defensively. Miller also can't create his own shot so he'll be redundant if his defender decides to stick on him. Pop knows that Wade can create his own shot, even if he's hurt. He won't take as many risks on Wade that he will on Miller. That's the difference between a superstar and a role player.

And its weird the cherrypicking you do. Saying the Heat couldn't have possibly have won without Wade's 5 1st half baskets and completely ignoring his 0-6 second half. The truth is Wade hasn't been efficient enough to make a point of taking the ball from the best player on earth to get him his stats. I REALLY hope they don't make a point of doing it again either.

Wade scored 10 (my bad. said he scored 12 in my previous post) points in the first half, when Lebron went off for 4 points on 2-7. Not only did he score 10 points, he also has 6 assists. Watch the game again and tell me that the Miami would have led the Spurs by 5, if it wasn't for Wade scoring and distributing in the first half. Please do. Wade made 5-10 in the first half in game two. He missed a tip in and two floaters after that. One of which was in garbage time. That's 0-3 not 0-6. The shooters we hitting their shots in the third and Wade didn't bother much. He missed a tip in and a floater during the third.
Well, the best player in the world is taking 18 shots a game and scoring 16 points. Wade is taking 14.3 and scoring 14.3 points. If you want to use TS%, Wade is scoring at 46.2% and Lebron is at 44.1%. EFG%? Wade is at 44.2% and Lebron is at 41.7%. Wade also doesn't eat up the shotclock as much as Lebron does. Now tell me. WHY shouldn't Wade take more shots than Lebron, when Wade's more efficient? However you look at it, Wade has been scoring more efficiently than Lebron. At this point, we should just replace Lebron with Miller.

I saw several plays in the 3rd game, during which "the best player in the world" dribbled the ball around for ~16 seconds and couldn't do crap with it.
Well in this series his DRTG is 102.5 (ORTG 128.3)

Wade's DRTG is 114.7 and his ORTG is a mere 97.1.

Miller is at 121.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...anced_playoffs

[aj1987]

Do people still want to replace Wade with Miller?

[Rubio2Gasol]

Wade entered the classic - "So overrated he became underrated" mold - it's hilarious

It will switch around again if they win too

[Hoopz2332]

they only looked bad because Wade isn't/wasn't healthy. They had perfect chemistry during 20 of the 27 games of the streak until Wade got hurt. Wade is going at cutting off lebron when he's healthy but Wade can't cut with a bum knew so he was staying in one spot which was bad for the Heat because wade doesn't hit spot up shots.