Kobe Bryant, Chasing History!

[tpols]

Regardless, if you take the shot you take the shot. We can all agree Wilt, MJ, West, Malone, Kareem they all played around 20 seasons. Which is what Kobe will play. The point is, he doesn't shoot as well as those guys did.

I look at it this way Favre has the most TDs and picks mostly because he played so long.

LOL you're comparing kobe to the greatest guard of all time and a bunch of centers that scored all of their points five feet from the basket. No shit they were more efficient!

[Rose]

how about when he started averaging 15 FGA a game

Well there's a difference between main option Kobe(post-Shaq) and chucking 15 or more shots, because he wanted to be the main option. so 15 FGA is a bad idea.

[Rose]

LOL you're comparing kobe to the greatest guard of all time and a bunch of centers that scored all of their points five feet from the basket. No shit they were more efficient!

Fine add in Havlicek and ALL THE OTHERS Baylor, West etc etc

Fact remains he's gonna have the most bricks. y u ?

[Rose]

Oh man you seriously do not even care one bit, do you....lol

Hell no! I do this shit right.

[the_wise_one]

Very good thread. Kobe "Bricklayer" Bryant sounds better than that retarded Mamba gag.

[N0Skillz]

Well there's a difference between main option Kobe(post-Shaq) and chucking 15 or more shots, because he wanted to be the main option. so 15 FGA is a bad idea.

I never said main option...


I said apart of the primary offense.


You need to stop hatin

[Rose]

I never said main option...

I said apart of the primary offense.
You need to stop hatin

Ohhh fine show me a site that has when he started taking over 15 a game.

[N0Skillz]

Kobe's FGA in wins and losses since he became a starter.

1999
wins- 15 FGA, 49.4 FG%
losses- 16.6 FGA, 42.2 FG%

2000
wins- 17.6 FGA, 48.1 FG%
losses- 19.6 FGA, 41.2 FG%

2001
wins- 21.9 FGA, 48.6 FG%
losses- 22.9 FGA, 42.4 FG%

2002
wins- 19 FGA, 49.5 FG%
losses- 22.2 FGA, 41.7 FG%

2003
wins- 23.3 FGA, 48 FG%
losses- 23.8 FGA, 40.7 FG%

2004
wins- 17.7 FGA, 46.2 FG%
losses- 19.4 FGA, 37.6 FG%

2005
wins- 19.6 FGA, 47 FG%
losses- 20.4 FGA, 40.6 FG%

2006
wins- 26.8 FGA, 47.6 FG%
losses- 27.6 FGA, 41.8 FG%

2007
wins- 22.3 FGA, 50.3 FG%
losses- 23.3 FGA, 42.3 FG%

2008
wins- 19.3 FGA, 48 FG%
losses- 23.6 FGA, 41.8 FG%

2009
wins- 19.5 FGA, 47.9 FG%
losses-26.1 FGA, 43.3 FG%

2010
wins- 20.6 FGA, 47.5 FG%
losses- 23.6 FGA, 41.9 FG%

2011 (19 games into the season, which is when the stats were compiled)
wins- 18.8 FGA, 43.3 FG%
losses- 25.8 FGA, 41.9 FG%

You wrote it yourself

[Rose]

You wrote it yourself

Meaning that...for 11 seasons he's been doing this.

Now calculate how many misses everyone else had through 11, once they started taking 15 fga

And then we can have a good conversation.

[Rose]

Anyone else got something good to add to this conversation?

[N0Skillz]

Regardless, if you take the shot you take the shot. We can all agree Wilt, MJ, West, Malone, Kareem they all played around 20 seasons. Which is what Kobe will play. The point is, he doesn't shoot as well as those guys did.

I look at it this way Favre has the most TDs and picks mostly because he played so long.

Kobe Bryant has played 14 seasons

Not Around 20
MJ played 15 seasons
West Played 14 seasons?
Wilt Chamberlain 14 seasons


Around 20
Malone 19 seasons
Kareem 20 seasons.

[Rose]

Kobe Bryant has played 14 seasons

Not Around 20
MJ played 15 seasons
West Played 14 seasons?
Wilt Chamberlain 14 seasons


Around 20
Malone 19 seasons
Kareem 20 seasons.

Was Kobe taking 15 fga his first three years? NO he seldom made it off the bench his first year, his second year, he was a good role player and then he became more involved.

[eliteballer]

Here's the brick leaders

Career missed shots:

John Havlicek 13,417 shots
Elvin Hayes 13,296 shots
Karl Malone 12,682 shots
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
12,470 shots
Michael Jordan 12,345 shots
Dominique Wilkins 11,626 shots
Elgin Baylor 11,478 shots
Allen Iverson 11,418 shots
Wilt Chamberlain 10,816 shots
Kobe Bryant 10,501 shots
Alex English 10,377 shots
Hal Greer 10,307 shots
Bob Cousy 10,300 shots
Hakeem Olajuwon 10,242 shots
Oscar Robertson 10,112 shots
Jerry West 10,016 shots

Yes...Kobe should be ashamed to be a part of that list....ISHiot

[N0Skillz]

Was Kobe taking 15 fga his first three years? NO he seldom made it off the bench his first year, his second year, he was a good role player and then he became more involved.

Actually he started averaging around 15 his second year

[zay_24]

MJ missed 12345 FG in 15 years.

Kobe only missed less than 10997 in 14 years.

MJ will have missed more field goals in the 15 year sample than kobe (because kobe won't reach MJ's total by the end of this year).

So technically MJ is the king of missed FGs since he has the most in the shortest time frame.

So all this really shows is how irrelevant and misleading that is since everyone still considers jordan the goat.