Curry's current season equals either of Nash's MVP seasons

[Eric Cartman]

So, if you agree that Nash deserved those MVP's, there should be no doubt that Curry is the MVP: 23 points, 8 assists, 2 steals, with much better defense than Stevie had, leading his team to the best record in the league with a rookie coach. Nash didn't even average 20 points his MVP campaigns.

This should be a no brainer given the precedent.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Curry averages 8 more points and only 3 less assist

easily MVP

[Lebronxrings]

Warriors are a top 5 seed even without curry.

[Quickening]

Warriors are a top 5 seed even without curry.

This. Thompson been out recently, and Curry averaging 35 percent from the field and they're still winning easily with other all stars going off.

[Im Still Ballin]

2-6 without Nash in 2004-2005

0-3 without Nash in 2005-2006

2-4 without Nash in 2006-2007

0-1 without Nash in 2007-2008

5-4 without Nash in 2008-2009

1-0 without Nash in 2009-2010

1-7 without Nash in 2010-2011

1-4 without Nash in 2011-2012

12-29 without Nash during his stint in PHX

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Though I would have no problem with Curry winning the MVP, there's more to comparing their seasons than individual stat lines.

'05 Nash turned a 29 win team into a 62 win team. '06 Nash led Phoenix to 54 wins while shooting 50/40/90 with better individual numbers.

By arguing that accepting Nash's MVPs = supporting Curry's MVP case you're ignoring the other candidates. Has Curry really been more valuable to his team than Harden? Or even Westbrook? What happens to those squads in their current states without those key players? I think that Nash did deserve his MVPs, and while Curry may be a deserving candidate I'm not sure if he's the most deserving (though I don't really have a horse in this race, I don't care who wins).

Most valuable player isn't necessarily the best player, which is why comparing stat lines between seasons isn't a great way to gauge value to a team. If Curry does win, he will have been a deserving candidate, but if he doesn't win it's not a knock on him, he'll still be a deserving candidate who happened to be overshadowed by another deserving candidate (probably Harden if Curry doesn't win).

TL;DR - Curry is a deserving candidate but he isn't alone in that department, comparing stat lines is a poor way to justify his candidacy, imo.

[Im Still Ballin]

Curry averages 8 more points and only 3 less assist

easily MVP

During Nash's statistical peak he averaged 18 and 12

5 less points but 4 more assists

Atleast 8 points accounted for from those extra 4 assists

Maybe more due to threes

2.5 for every assist is a fair guestimate

10+ points accounted for

5+ points accounted for compared to Curry's 23 and 8

Not to mention better efficiency across the board with less turnovers in less minutes a game

[StephHamann]

2-6 without Nash in 2004-2005

0-3 without Nash in 2005-2006

2-4 without Nash in 2006-2007

0-1 without Nash in 2007-2008

5-4 without Nash in 2008-2009

1-0 without Nash in 2009-2010

1-7 without Nash in 2010-2011

1-4 without Nash in 2011-2012

12-29 without Nash during his stint in PHX

The Phoenix Suns were the second worst team in the west with 29 wins before Nash arrived. And their offense was rated 94.2 per game, which was only 1 point above the 93 points league average.

He was basically the only addition in 2004 and the Suns won 62 games with him, while having the by far best offense with 110 points per game.



How great is our Gawd ?

[RightToCensor]

Point God ^

[UK2K]

What does Nash's seasons have to do with this season?

You think Curry is the only one with a better statistical season?

How old are we?

[TheMarkMadsen]

During Nash's statistical peak he averaged 18 and 12

5 less points but 4 more assists

Atleast 8 points accounted for from those extra 4 assists

Maybe more due to threes

2.5 for every assist is a fair guestimate

10+ points accounted for

5+ points accounted for compared to Curry's 23 and 8

Not to mention better efficiency across the board with less turnovers in less minutes a game

Nash's assist totals were inflated due to the system.

The same system that has allowed d league level players to average 9 assist per game entire seasons.

[Hey Yo]

So, if you agree that Nash deserved those MVP's, there should be no doubt that Curry is the MVP: 23 points, 8 assists, 2 steals, with much better defense than Stevie had, leading his team to the best record in the league with a rookie coach. Nash didn't even average 20 points his MVP campaigns.

This should be a no brainer given the precedent.

The Suns record the year before Nash got there was 29-53. With Nash 62-20

Then they lost their leading scorer and 2nd leading rebounder (from the year before) 3 games into the following season. They only won 8 less games (54-28) than the previous season. That's pretty impressive

You can't compare Curry's situation to Nash'

[Im Still Ballin]

Nash's assist totals were inflated due to the system.

The same system that has allowed d league level players to average 9 assist per game entire seasons.

Nash WAS the system

There's a reason why no teams have been able to copy their run and gun method and why Mike D has failed everywhere else he has coached

Steve was the engine

[DMV2]

Warriors are a top 5 seed even without curry.

Top 5 isn't good enough for MVP. Name me one MVP winner since 1980 whose teams weren't #1 or #2 seed.

#5 Clippers are 11 games behind #1 seed.
#5 Wizards are 13 games behind #1 seed.

Hell, #2 seed Grizzlies are 7.5 games behind. #2 seed Cleveland are 9 games behind.

Lead your team to #1 seed is a huge gap this year. Curry is legit MVP-worthy.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Nash WAS the system

There's a reason why no teams have been able to copy their run and gun method and why Mike D has failed everywhere else he has coached

Steve was the engine

He's failed because he's never had teams as stacked as those suns team.

Guys like Joe Johnson, Marion, Diaw & Amare don't just come out every year.

Meanwhile, Kendall Marshall ran the system last year, averaged 9 assist per game and now can't find a job.

Chris Duhon was putting up 9-10 assist per game under dantoni and then couldn't find a job without him.

Jeremy Lin has never looked the same as he did under dantoni.