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Re: 36/7/8 > 30/9/11 since MJ was 16 ppg over Pip vs. Bron's 2 ppg over Kyrie
Originally Posted by 3ball
Jordan was never the favorite like Lebron was in 2009-2011 playoffs - and that's all that matters.
The only time Jordan lost in the playoffs was when he was a severe underdog.
See 2016 finals severe underdog. Lebron comes out on top. Why can't Jordan?
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Re: 36/7/8 > 30/9/11 since MJ was 16 ppg over Pip vs. Bron's 2 ppg over Kyrie
Originally Posted by 3ball
The only time Jordan lost in the playoffs was when he was a severe underdog.
Lebron just won a ring as the severe underdog.
He's better than Jordan
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Re: 36/7/8 > 30/9/11 since MJ was 16 ppg over Pip vs. Bron's 2 ppg over Kyrie
Originally Posted by bigkingsfan
See 2016 finals severe underdog. Lebron comes out on top. Why can't Jordan?
Anyone who watched in 1991 Finals knows that the Bulls were severe underdogs, [COLOR="Navy"]which NBA.com documents in their history archives[/COLOR]:
The Bulls were also underdogs in 1998 Finals - Utah had homecourt, plus they had SWEPT Shaq's 4 all-star Lakers and Popovich/Duncan's 56-win Spurs.. So everyone thought they would beat the Bulls, who were weary and had barely squeaked by Indiana in 7 games in ECF.. You would know this if you watched back then.
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Re: 36/7/8 > 30/9/11 since MJ was 16 ppg over Pip vs. Bron's 2 ppg over Kyrie
Originally Posted by 3ball
Anyone who watched in 1991 Finals knows that the Bulls were severe underdogs, [COLOR="Navy"]which NBA.com documents in their history archives[/COLOR]:
The Bulls were also underdogs in 1998 Finals - Utah had homecourt, plus they had SWEPT Shaq's 4 all-star Lakers and Popovich/Duncan's 56-win Spurs.. So everyone thought they would beat the Bulls, who were weary and had barely squeaked by Indiana in 7 games in ECF.. You would know this if you watched back then.
Bulls had comecourt vs old Lakers and just beat Jazz the year before, but somehow severe underdog.
No one picked Cavs to win period.
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Re: 36/7/8 > 30/9/11 since MJ was 16 ppg over Pip vs. Bron's 2 ppg over Kyrie
Originally Posted by bigkingsfan
Bulls had comecourt vs old Lakers and just beat Jazz the year before, but somehow severe underdog.
No one picked Cavs to win period.
Despite your efforts to revise history, the facts are what they are - the Bulls were big underdogs going into the 1991 Finals (documented in previous post), and solid underdogs against the 98' Jazz.
More importantly, Jordan never lost as the favorite like Lebron did in 2009-2011 playoffs - that's the most important thing.. The only time Jordan lost in the playoffs was when he was a severe underdog.
You probably don't realize that the Bulls would've won the championship in 1990 if Pippen didn't have his legendary choke in Game 7 of ECF (2 pts, 1-10, famous "migraine" headache).. The Bulls would've beaten the Blazers in the Finals, since the Pistons beat Blazers in 5 easy games, but needed 7 tough games and Pippen's choke to beat the Bulls.. The margin in ORtg was massive between Pistons/Blazers, but razor-thin vs. Bulls.
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Re: 36/7/8 > 30/9/11 since MJ was 16 ppg over Pip vs. Bron's 2 ppg over Kyrie
Originally Posted by 3ball
Despite your efforts to revise history, the facts are what they are - the Bulls were big underdogs going into the 1991 Finals (documented in previous post), and solid underdogs against the 98' Jazz.
More importantly, Jordan never lost as the favorite like Lebron did in 2009-2011 playoffs - that's the most important thing.. The only time Jordan lost in the playoffs was when he was a severe underdog.
You probably don't realize that the Bulls would've won the championship in 1990 if Pippen didn't have his legendary choke in Game 7 of ECF (2 pts, 1-10, famous "migraine" headache).. The Bulls would've beaten the Blazers in the Finals, since the Pistons beat Blazers in 5 easy games, but needed 7 tough games and Pippen's choke to beat the Bulls.. The margin in ORtg was massive between Pistons/Blazers, but razor-thin vs. Bulls.
Since you like facts, then back to :
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Re: 36/7/8 > 30/9/11 since MJ was 16 ppg over Pip vs. Bron's 2 ppg over Kyrie
Originally Posted by 3ball
^^^ That's 3rd grade logic though
36/7/8 over THREE Finals while scoring 16 ppg more than 2nd option and making all the game-winning plays
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30/11/9 in ONE Finals while scoring 2 ppg more than 2nd option and the 2nd option making the game-winning plays
Also, Lebron averaged 24 ppg and 6 turnovers thru 4 games (3-1 deficit), and came back by averaging 36 ppg in the final 3 games.. But if he averaged 36 ppg for the ENTIRE SERIES like Jordan did in 1991-1993 Finals, then he wouldn't need a 7th game... MJ was much >>
Leading both team in all stat is 3rd grade logic, but cherry picking points isn't.
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Re: 36/7/8 > 30/9/11 since MJ was 16 ppg over Pip vs. Bron's 2 ppg over Kyrie
Originally Posted by bigkingsfan
Since you like facts, then back to Lebron being only player to lead his team in all categories
^^^ That's 3rd grade logic though
[COLOR="Red"]36/7/8[/COLOR] over [COLOR="Green"]THREE[/COLOR] Finals while scoring [COLOR="Blue"]16 ppg[/COLOR] more than 2nd option and making all the game-winning plays
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[COLOR="Red"]30/11/9[/COLOR] in [COLOR="Green"]ONE[/COLOR] Finals while scoring [COLOR="Blue"]2 ppg[/COLOR] more than 2nd option and NOT making the game-winning plays
Also, Lebron averaged 24 ppg and 6 turnovers thru 4 games (3-1 deficit), and came back by averaging 36 ppg in the final 3 games.. But if he averaged 36 ppg for the ENTIRE SERIES like Jordan did in 1991-1993 Finals, then he wouldn't need a 7th game... MJ was much >>
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Re: 36/7/8 > 30/9/11 since MJ was 16 ppg over Pip vs. Bron's 2 ppg over Kyrie
Originally Posted by bigkingsfan
Leading both team in all stat is 3rd grade logic, but cherry picking points isn't.
Scoring is the most important thing a #1 option does
You'd gladly trade Lebron's 1 extra assist and 4 defensive rebounds for Jordan's 6 more points on better efficiency and clutch dominance..
Jordan's scoring requires more energy and controls the game far more.. Let some unskilled big grab the defensive rebounds... ... Lebron's skillsets are redundant (rebounding steps on bigs toes... his ball-dominance steps on PG's toes)
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Re: 36/7/8 > 30/9/11 since MJ was 16 ppg over Pip vs. Bron's 2 ppg over Kyrie
So Lebron is the better overall player, and MJ the scorer. Gotcha
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Re: 36/7/8 > 30/9/11 since MJ was 16 ppg over Pip vs. Bron's 2 ppg over Kyrie
Originally Posted by bigkingsfan
So Lebron is the better overall player, and MJ the scorer. Gotcha
No, Jordan's scoring load was far greater, yet he only averaged [COLOR="black"]ONE[/COLOR] less assist (with far less turnovers).
You'd gladly trade Lebron's 1 extra assist and 3 defensive rebounds for Jordan's 6 more points on better efficiency and clutch dominance..
Jordan's scoring requires more energy and controls the game far more.. Let some unskilled big grab the defensive rebounds... ... Lebron's skillsets are redundant (his rebounding infringes on his bigman's duties... his ball-dominance steps on PG's duties... hence 3/8 mediocre record vs 6/6 goat)
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Re: 36/7/8 > 30/9/11 since MJ was 16 ppg over Pip vs. Bron's 2 ppg over Kyrie
Originally Posted by 3ball
No, Jordan's scoring load was far greater, yet he only averaged [COLOR="black"]ONE[/COLOR] less assist (with far less turnovers).
You'd gladly trade Lebron's 1 extra assist and 3 defensive rebounds for Jordan's 6 more points on better efficiency and clutch dominance..
Jordan's scoring requires more energy and controls the game far more.. Let some unskilled big grab the defensive rebounds... ... Lebron's skillsets are redundant (his rebounding infringes on his bigman's duties... his ball-dominance steps on PG's duties... hence 3/8 mediocre record vs 6/6 goat)
You're just agreeing me at this point, points goes to Jordan, Assist/Rebounds Lebron.
Never forget
http://insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=382056
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Re: 36/7/8 > 30/9/11 since MJ was 16 ppg over Pip vs. Bron's 2 ppg over Kyrie
Originally Posted by bigkingsfan
You're just agreeing me at this point, points goes to Jordan, Assist/Rebounds Lebron.
Jordan was a better passer than Lebron since he averaged only 1 less assist despite his team needing him to score far more - and the 1 assist is cancelled out by turnovers anyway.
You think that Lebron pounding the rock until he gets an assist is better than Jordan getting the same assists WITHOUT pounding the rock forever, while undertaking a larger scoring load.. One method yields 3/8, and the other yields 6/6... but Lebron is a better passer... ... so dumb
Originally Posted by bigkingsfan
I bumped that thread, because I was right - now that Durant has evened the playing field by team-hopping like Lebron did, Lebron has no cheating advantage anymore - so he won't win shit ever again.. sorry bud
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Re: 36/7/8 > 30/9/11 since MJ was 16 ppg over Pip vs. Bron's 2 ppg over Kyrie
Originally Posted by 3ball
I bumped that thread, because I was right - now that Durant has evened the playing field by team-hopping like Lebron did, Lebron has no cheating advantage anymore - so he won't win shit ever again.. sorry bud
Never wins a ring again, even though he did this year, nice logic.
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Re: 36/7/8 > 30/9/11 since MJ was 16 ppg over Pip vs. Bron's 2 ppg over Kyrie
Originally Posted by 3ball
I bumped that thread, because I was right - now that Durant has evened the playing field by team-hopping like Lebron did, Lebron has no cheating advantage anymore - so he won't win shit ever again.. sorry bud
You made that thread in '15, you little bitch. LeBron averaged 30/11/9 on 50% and won a ring the season after you made the thread.
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