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    Default Re: Honest question, how far does Jordan go on last years Cavs team inplace of LeBron?

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    I'm speaking figuratively

    MJ had little defensive help in 89 and 90
    Yeah Scottie Pippen and Horace Grant weren’t known as good defensive players.

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    Default Re: Honest question, how far does Jordan go on last years Cavs team inplace of LeBron?

    [QUOTE=RRR3]Yeah Scottie Pippen and Horace Grant weren

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    Default Re: Honest question, how far does Jordan go on last years Cavs team inplace of LeBron?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gus Hemmingway
    So they'd win 29 games instead of 19? And still miss the playoffs?






    The same crew LeGOAT took to the Finals?
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    3ball is right, I don't think kyrie leaves if MJ is there instead of br0n

    you gotta think about cleveland now as a franchise as well, kyrie would still be there if bron hadn't came back to be a cancer

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    Default Re: Honest question, how far does Jordan go on last years Cavs team inplace of LeBron?

    He'll demand more of them. Definitely NBA Finals, considering his GOAT level game in perimeter friendly rules, made more friendly with rules changes before the season started.

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    Default Re: Honest question, how far does Jordan go on last years Cavs team inplace of LeBron?

    Quote Originally Posted by jstern
    He'll demand more of them. Definitely NBA Finals, considering his GOAT level game in perimeter friendly rules, made more friendly with rules changes before the season started.
    So why couldn

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    Default Re: Honest question, how far does Jordan go on last years Cavs team inplace of LeBron?

    With or without LeBrons PED

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    [QUOTE=eliteballer]With or without LeBrons PED

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    Default Re: Honest question, how far does Jordan go on last years Cavs team inplace of LeBron?

    [QUOTE=Gus Hemmingway]So why couldn

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    Default Re: Honest question, how far does Jordan go on last years Cavs team inplace of LeBron?

    Depends on prime Jordan or back 9 jordan.

    People seem to forget what Jordan's performances were like 96 on. Even 95 Jordan had a decline similar to 2015 lebron.

    Jordan from 91 to 93 is diff from 95 on.

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    Default Re: Honest question, how far does Jordan go on last years Cavs team inplace of LeBron?

    Quote Originally Posted by PP34Deuce
    Depends on prime Jordan or back 9 jordan.

    People seem to forget what Jordan's performances were like 96 on. Even 95 Jordan had a decline similar to 2015 lebron.

    Jordan from 91 to 93 is diff from 95 on.
    this.

    also is Mj playing for Ty "do it yo damnself" Lue? He was MJ's teammate in Washington I doubt he'd respect him at all. There would be no triangle in Cleveland to take the playmaking burden away from Mj.

    Is Mj playing year 15? Or is he playing age 33? Makes a difference but not as much a difference as prime Mj would. By that age Mj wasn't a do all guy anymore, so who would do the other things Lebron brought to the table last year.

    Mj definitely was capable of hitting the game winners but could he get that offense to overachieve in the way Lebron was able to when he was on the floor? Lots of questions to make any assumption.

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    Default Re: Honest question, how far does Jordan go on last years Cavs team inplace of LeBron?

    MJ would win twice as much as Lebron.
    Lebron would lose twice as much as MJ.

    Take your pick.

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    Default Re: Honest question, how far does Jordan go on last years Cavs team inplace of LeBron?

    Would this team follow Jordan as a leader? Kyrie couldn't stand letting Lebron have the spotlight. How much more with Jordan's spotlight and nastiness to teammates? Would Love even get a shot? JR would not play a minute. The only players who could help with Jordan are Tristan, Korver, Nance, George Hill, and Hood. Those would be the only players to run a triangle. This team would implode before the playoffs.

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    Default Re: Honest question, how far does Jordan go on last years Cavs team inplace of LeBron?

    Quote Originally Posted by sdot_thadon

    Could he get that offense to overachieve in the way Lebron was able to when he was on the floor?

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    MJ achieved much better offenses than lebron (goat team ORtg's) with less offensive help, so your point supports Jordan

    If the criteria is overachieving offenses, then mj destroys lebron

    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=467505

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    Default Re: Honest question, how far does Jordan go on last years Cavs team inplace of LeBron?

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    MJ achieved much better offenses than lebron (goat team ORtg's) with less offensive help, so your point supports Jordan

    If the criteria is overachieving offenses, then mj destroys lebron

    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=467505
    in the triangle, with scottie pippen and with phil jackson as coach. Try Ty Lue and 33 year old Mj or 15th season Mj. Take your pick won't really matter much imo.

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    Default Re: Honest question, how far does Jordan go on last years Cavs team inplace of LeBron?

    Quote Originally Posted by sdot_thadon

    [COLOR="blue"]in the triangle[/COLOR], with scottie pippen and with phil jackson as coach. Try Ty Lue and 33 year old Mj or 15th season Mj. Take your pick won't really matter much imo.
    How good was the triangle in 1994 without MJ?.. it was literally nothing (#14 in the league)

    How good was it during the 1st and 2nd three-peat? They had four #1 offenses, including the #2, #6, #8, and #12 offenses of all time (the most top 10 and top 20 offenses ever)

    And that was with no 3rd option and an often weak-scoring 2nd option..

    Also, there would be no Lue - Blatt had the kind of system that MJ thrived in... Love too... So they would've 3-peated with Blatt

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